This has appeared on a few web forums as the next promo card.
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Wall Street Night, Financial Newspaper
Master: Unique Location
1 Pool
Tap during an undirected action to give a minion you control +1
intercept for the current action. Tap to select a minion you control.
Once this turn, the chosen minion may move a counter from an
investment card controlled by any methuselah to your pool as a +1
stealth action.
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Any truth to the rumors?
"OrgPlay" <org...@white-wolf.com> wrote in message
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Oscar,
Is this going to be another promo that normal people can't get
for anotehr 6 or 8 months?
Fred
> Oscar,
>
> Is this going to be another promo that normal people can't get
> for anotehr 6 or 8 months?
Answering your question with the part you yourself quoted:
> > Currently only available at a Qualifier near you.
> >
> > Oscar Garza
> > OrgPlay
That would tend to imply - okay, directly state - that it's only
available at a Qualifier right now.
Of course, 'normal people' can go to a Qualifier if they like; before
someone bitches about how they can't manage to get to one, I'll point
out that many, many, many people who play VTES also have to travel some
incovenient distance to attend one, just like in every year that
Qualifiers have been held in the past. Some of them make the effort,
and part of their reward for doing so is getting this sort of card
before everybody else.
Thus the concept of a 'promotional' item - it promotes the idea of
making the effort to attend a qualifier.
At least it's something that is not going to _exclusively, only ever_
be limited to those folks (as lots of other gaming companies put out
promo cards and do NOT then circulate them more extensively).
> Fred
-John Flournoy
"John Flournoy" <carn...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>> Oscar,
>>
>> Is this going to be another promo that normal people can't get
>> for anotehr 6 or 8 months?>
> Answering your question with the part you yourself quoted:
>>> > Currently only available at a Qualifier near you.
>> >
>> > Oscar Garza
>> > OrgPlay>
> That would tend to imply - okay, directly state - that it's only
> available at a Qualifier right now.
Well, that _did_ seem to be the case in the previous two promos that were
issued. Retribution was issued last year about this time and didn't seem
to be availalbe in normal tournament packages until at least during the
summer. Therefore, for several months it was only available at qualifiers,
AFAIK. Spontaneous Power was issued last year around June as AFAIK was
only available at qualifiers and continental championships. I don't even
know if it can be obtained now in mundane tournament prize packages. I
believe I have heard that people have seen it there and some folks are
selling it on EBAY in numbers I wouldn't expect unless they were. But I
have yet to see one I know was obtained that way.
Don't get me wrong, I'd be happy to otherwise about this new promo. I
am begging to hear that there won't be another 6-month delay or so
like there seemed to be on the previous two. Or that those delays
weren't deliberate and planned as such. It just seems to be a
bit premature to be issuing yet another promo at qualifiers when
Spontaneous Power apparently just hit regular tournament packs.
> Of course, 'normal people' can go to a Qualifier if they like; before
> someone bitches about how they can't manage to get to one, I'll point
> out that many, many, many people who play VTES also have to travel some
> incovenient distance to attend one,
Well, I mean, "normal people" can throw their cash from helicopters,
too. But that usually doesn't fit into a the normal people lifestyle.
This is the same kind of let-them-eat-cake answer I kept getting when
I pointed out how incredibly biased a rating system is that in practical
terms strongly favors people who live near a high density of tournaments.
Some people can easily travel to their choice of CQs within a few hours.
Others - like me - can get in a car and drive five hours to one tournament
that will happen on a specific weekend four months from now and all the
other ones are effectively a plane fight away.
And then there are the people who don't live on a continent that will
have any CQs.
I mean, sure, people always have the option to travel to some qualifer
somewhere if they try hard enough. So noted. In practice, it means
rank and file players - those who just aren't so crazy about the game
that they plan vacations around it - in many places just don't get the
cards for a long time. As opposed to being in one of the privileged
areas where a CQ might happen two blocks away.
Does it "kill the game"? Well, no. But it doesn't help things. The
point of issuing promos is supposed to create good will and additional
interest in the game. Not tick people off and rub their noses in
privleges they can't get.
> Thus the concept of a 'promotional' item - it promotes the idea of
> making the effort to attend a qualifier.
Fine. They can promote that idea with promos that are _already_ in
tournament packs. I don't see how qualifiers really need to grant
some special unique thing to get people to show up. The chance to
qualify and/or to compete against people who want to is quite
attraction enough.
> At least it's something that is not going to _exclusively, only ever_
> be limited to those folks (as lots of other gaming companies put out
> promo cards and do NOT then circulate them more extensively).
No, I'll grant that at least that final insult to the non-advantaged
is spared. I suppose I should be grateful for that. It just seems
so unnecessary to pulling this kind of stuff for this purpose, though.
(If that's actually supposed to be the point.)
Fred
Fred Scott schrieb:
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In short: The WW policy about special promos (qualifier etc..) is that
they enter the regular tournament packs one year after their initial
release. That makes them special. Some people pay 100$ for it on ebay,
they should have used the money to go to a qualifier ;-)
--
johannes walch
Johannes Walch escreveu:
> Fred Scott schrieb:
> > "John Flournoy" <carn...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:1138133135.0...@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> >>>Oscar,
> >>>Is this going to be another promo that normal people can't get
> >>>for anotehr 6 or 8 months?
> >>> >>>>Currently only available at a Qualifier near you.
> >>>>
> >>>>Oscar Garza
> >>>>OrgPlay
> >>
> >>That would tend to imply - okay, directly state - that it's only
> >>available at a Qualifier right now.
> >
> > Well, that _did_ seem to be the case in the previous two promos that were
> > issued. Retribution was issued last year about this time and didn't seem
> > to be availalbe in normal tournament packages until at least during the
> > summer. Therefore, for several months it was only available at qualifiers,
> > AFAIK. Spontaneous Power was issued last year around June as AFAIK was
> > only available at qualifiers and continental championships. I don't even
> > know if it can be obtained now in mundane tournament prize packages. I
> > believe I have heard that people have seen it there and some folks are
> > selling it on EBAY in numbers I wouldn't expect unless they were. But I
> > have yet to see one I know was obtained that way.> In short: The WW policy about special promos (qualifier etc..) is that> they enter the regular tournament packs one year after their initial
> release. That makes them special. Some people pay 100$ for it on ebay,
> they should have used the money to go to a qualifier ;-)> johannes walch
There's also the stocking issue. Even when promo X or Y is not intended
to enter regular tournament packs only after a year or so, most
ditributors have a stock of older packs without promo X or Y and will
only order new packs with X or Y when they're done with the older ones.
That alone accounts for the N-months delay some locations on the world
get to see those 'new' promos.
I do hope that Angelo and Genina appear in the qualifier kits, though,
and in large numbers (30+). We didn't have access to the magazines and
importing them proved to be very tricky or expensive due to currency
exchange issues. I won't build any Samedi group 3-4 deck without Genina
- without her the grouping pair is worse than 2-3 in almost every
aspect except for including one or two Samedis along with vampires of
other clans, such as Trogloditya in a Harbinger deck and so on.
best,
Fabio "Sooner" Macedo
"Johannes Walch" <johanne...@vekn.de> wrote in
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> In short: The WW policy about special promos (qualifier etc..) is that
> they enter the regular tournament packs one year after their initial
> release. That makes them special. Some people pay 100$ for it on ebay,
> they should have used the money to go to a qualifier ;-)
Um, I think you're thinking about Storyline Promos. Which - since all
princes can hold every Storyline that comes down the pike*** - is
fairly reasonable.
*** - And I do.
Fred
> Is this going to be another promo that normal people can't get
> for anotehr 6 or 8 months?
Yeah, but Fread... You're not normal. :)
Comments Welcome,
Norman S. Brown, Jr
XZealot
Archon of the Swamp
XZealot wrote:
> > Is this going to be another promo that normal people can't get
> > for anotehr 6 or 8 months?
>
> Yeah, but Fread... You're not normal. :)
Point of fact, "normal people" don't play TCGs.
"LSJ" <vte...@white-wolf.com> wrote in message
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I'll have you know I resemble that remark.
The Lasombra <TheLa...@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> Wall Street Night, Financial Newspaper
> Master: Unique Location
> 1 Pool
> Tap during an undirected action to give a minion you control +1
> intercept for the current action. Tap to select a minion you control.
> Once this turn, the chosen minion may move a counter from an
> investment card controlled by any methuselah to your pool as a +1
> stealth action.
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What is the official release date for Wall Street Night?
When will it be legal for constructed play?
Thanks.