rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad

Order of Untap question

1 message from 1 participant · 13 January 1998
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LSJ

On VTES-L, Gwen Morse <gold...@geocities.com> worte: > I was in a game with a 'new' Jyhad player vs. myself. He had a hunting > ground + a vampire with 0 blood and 'Charnas the imp' on him. It came to > his untap phase, and he stated he wanted to put the blood from the Hunting > Ground on said vampire before he actually untapped to avoid him going to > torpor from the 1 damage dealt by Charnas. I said he could not do this, > because he needed to untap the card FIRST, and the instant he was untapped > he would take the damage. *HE* said, based on playing M:TG and the like, > that he could avoid this. You are right. > >From this situation, I have a couple questions: > > (1) Are all cards untapped before any 'resolved during untap phase' options > occur? Yes. Untapping all your cards is the first thing you do in your untap phase. > (2) Does damage dealt by Charnas occur at the MOMENT of untapping, or > sometime later in the phase? If it occurs later in the phase, can the > Methuselah controlling the minion inflicted with Charnas organize the the > timing enough to get blood to his minion BEFORE he goes to torpor (with a > Hunting ground or possibly another card I'm not thinking of now) Charnas deals damage to the minion when the minion untaps. Whenever the minion untaps. The damage is not an event to be ordered. It simply occurs when the minion untaps. (card text). > (3) Can Charnas send a vampire to torpor by bringing him below 0 blood? Any damage that a vampire cannot heal will send the vampire to torpor, yes. -- L. Scott Johnson (vte...@wizards.com) Official VtES Net.Rep for Wizards of the Coast. (*) - Subject to review by Rules Team