Concordance Q:

Concordance Action Daimonion/Serpentis 1 blood +1 stealth action. [ser]: Bleed. If more than 1 pool is bled with this action, ignore the excess. [dai]: Requires an infernal vampire. Put this card on the acting vampire. This vampire treats aggravated damage as normal damage and has +1 strength and -1 stealth. <DAI>: As [dai] above, and this vampire has flight and may burn 1 blood to untap during your influence phase. Haven't seen this card myself, just quoting a spoiler that was put up. It seems like this card is stackable, is this true? Roger

Roger Carhult wrote: > Haven't seen this card myself, just quoting a spoiler that was put up. It > seems like this card is stackable, is this true? Yes. All cards are stackable by default. Explicit card text is needed to change that. -- LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc. Links to revised rulebook, rulings, errata, and tournament rules: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/

[ quoted text not captured ] Yep. The effect of stcking it though would just to get another +1 strength and -1 stealth each time.

"GreySeer" <e...@i.think.not> wrote in message news:<u0m5br3...@news.supernews.com>... [ quoted text not captured ] Oh my, what beatiful card....It´s too , too, POWERFUL. or u don´t think so? Regards

In message <c39b6f71.0112...@posting.google.com>, Ulugh Beg <djen...@hotmail.com> writes: >> > [ser]: Bleed. If more than 1 pool is bled with this action, ignore the >> > excess. >> > [dai]: Requires an infernal vampire. Put this card on the acting vampire. >> > This vampire treats aggravated damage as normal damage and has +1 strength >> > and -1 stealth. >> > <DAI>: As [dai] above, and this vampire has flight and may burn 1 blood >> > to untap during your influence phase. > >Oh my, what beatiful card....It´s too , too, POWERFUL. >or u don´t think so? It requires Daimoinon, which is hard to access outside of the Baali - who are expensive to use. Either that, or you need to use Ian/Infernal Familiar etc. And -1 stealth is rather tricksy. -- James Coupe When correctly viewed PGP Key: 0x5D623D5D Everything is lewd EBD690ECD7A1FB457CA2 I could tell you things about Peter Pan 13D7E668C3695D623D5D And the Wizard of Oz, there's a dirty old man

James Coupe wrote: > In message <c39b6f71.0112...@posting.google.com>, Ulugh Beg > >> > [ser]: Bleed. If more than 1 pool is bled with this action, ignore the > >> > excess. > >> > [dai]: Requires an infernal vampire. Put this card on the acting vampire. > >> > This vampire treats aggravated damage as normal damage and has +1 strength > >> > and -1 stealth. > >> > <DAI>: As [dai] above, and this vampire has flight and may burn 1 blood > >> > to untap during your influence phase. > > > >Oh my, what beatiful card....It愀 too , too, POWERFUL. > >or u don愒 think so? > > It requires Daimoinon, which is hard to access outside of the Baali - > who are expensive to use. Either that, or you need to use Ian/Infernal > Familiar etc. The dai effect requires an infernal vampire as well, so Ian and Infernal Familiar, etc. won't be sufficient. [ quoted text not captured ]

"Ulugh Beg" <djen...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:c39b6f71.0112...@posting.google.com... [ quoted text not captured ] > Oh my, what beatiful card....It愀 too , too, POWERFUL. > or u don愒 think so? Once you equip the first one, you have no stealth equiping the second one? Maybe you sneak that by, you have -1 stealth on the third. Doesn't seem like a problem? -- Aaron The Nosferatu Stuff

> Once you equip the first one, you have no stealth equiping the second one? > Maybe you sneak that by, you have -1 stealth on the third. Doesn't seem > like a problem? exactly, plus since it cost you a pool every time you don't tap so you can take the actions...it becomes expensive.

In message <9ug50o$870nv$1...@ID-104455.news.dfncis.de>, Roger Carhult [ quoted text not captured ] Well, it's obvious, isn't it? You play Clan Impersonation: Malkavian, then get a Homunculus, then untap between turns and use Madness Network, for those well-known, fully-functioning Setite/Malkavian/Baali decks. [ quoted text not captured ]

djen...@hotmail.com (Ulugh Beg) wrote in message news:<c39b6f71.0112...@posting.google.com>... [ quoted text not captured ] I do think so ... imagine this: Baali + concordance + force of will + daring the dawn!!!! You get an unblockable bleed at +2 (at sup) without going to torpor and you can stop paying the Infernal cost!!!! I think it is a most powerful combo!!! Until next time, PH

Phelan Kell wrote: > Baali + concordance + force of will + daring the dawn!!!! > > You get an unblockable bleed at +2 (at sup) without going to torpor > and you can stop paying the Infernal cost!!!! Blockable by allies. And you've spent 3 blood for the FoW and the DtD. Assuming the Concordance doesn't get blocked. Compare Horrific Countenance. [ quoted text not captured ]

On 3 Dec 2001 10:09:14 -0800, Phela...@oninet.pt (Phelan Kell) said: Phelan> djen...@hotmail.com (Ulugh Beg) wrote in message news:<c39b6f71.0112...@posting.google.com>... >> "GreySeer" <e...@i.think.not> wrote in message news:<u0m5br3...@news.supernews.com>... >> > > Concordance >> > > Action >> > > Daimonion/Serpentis >> > > 1 blood >> > > +1 stealth action. >> > > [ser]: Bleed. If more than 1 pool is bled with this action, ignore the >> > > excess. >> > > [dai]: Requires an infernal vampire. Put this card on the acting vampire. >> > > This vampire treats aggravated damage as normal damage and has +1 strength >> > > and -1 stealth. >> > > <DAI>: As [dai] above, and this vampire has flight and may burn 1 blood >> > > to untap during your influence phase. Phelan> Baali + concordance + force of will + daring the dawn!!!! Phelan> You get an unblockable bleed at +2 (at sup) without going to torpor Phelan> and you can stop paying the Infernal cost!!!! Well, it's nice but a bit slow... and you cannot stop paying the Infernal cost with this, since the Infernal cost kicks in at untap and Concordance allows you to untap at influence. You still have to pay the Infernal cost if you want to use the infernal minion during your turn. //Petri

> Phelan> Baali + concordance + force of will + daring the dawn!!!! > > Phelan> You get an unblockable bleed at +2 (at sup) without going to torpor > Phelan> and you can stop paying the Infernal cost!!!! > > Well, it's nice but a bit slow... and you cannot stop paying the > Infernal cost with this, since the Infernal cost kicks in at untap and > Concordance allows you to untap at influence. You still have to pay > the Infernal cost if you want to use the infernal minion during your > turn. If you want to do a bleed action it does. You're going to pay at least 1 pool to get the Concordance action through though. You could reduce the damage potential by using stealth instead of DtD and if you do get blocked you can Change of Target and untap, leaving you free to block or take another action. There's also Freak Drive.