Succubus Jack

If I control Smiling Jack, during my untap phase I move a counter from my pool to the card, and then give the card to another Methuselah with the Succubus Club, will I need to burn a blood/pool for each counter the card has during the same untap phase? -- Bye, Daneel

"Daneel" <dan...@eposta.hu> wrote in message news:opsouzru...@news.chello.hu... [ quoted text not captured ] Yes. -- LSJ (vtesr...@TRAPwhite-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep (Remove spam trap to reply). V:TES homepage: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/ Though effective, appear to be ineffective -- Sun Tzu

And then you get pimp-slapped for playing a card that is no longer tournament-legal. Eric Simon Prince of Chicago

vol...@yahoo.com a écrit : > And then you get pimp-slapped for playing a card that is no longer > tournament-legal. he can still play it in a non-tournament envirnoment i guess. Depend on how his playgroup handle things.

Raille wrote: > "LSJ" <vtesr...@TRAPwhite-wolf.com> wrote in message >>"Daneel" <dan...@eposta.hu> wrote in message >>>If I control Smiling Jack, during my untap phase I move a >>> counter from my pool to the card, and then give the card >>> to another Methuselah with the Succubus Club, will I need >>> to burn a blood/pool for each counter the card has during >>> the same untap phase? >> >>Yes. > > Would it be legal to declare that you have paid that penalty before you send > the card off to another player? You *do* have the option of ordering your > phase as you see fit. There seems to be nothing from stopping a player > from declaring the Jack penalty even if it does not currently effect them. Card text. Only "other" Methuselahs pay the penalty in question. You can move Smiling Jack before you pay your one pool "you" penalty, but you'll still have to pay the X pool/blood "others" penalty when you are among the "others". -- LSJ (vtesr...@TRAPwhite-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep (remove spam trap to reply) Links to V:TES news, rules, cards, utilities, and tournament calendar: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/

"LSJ" <vtesr...@TRAPwhite-wolf.com> wrote in message news:d33724$4bn$1...@domitilla.aioe.org... > "Daneel" <dan...@eposta.hu> wrote in message > news:opsouzru...@news.chello.hu... >> If I control Smiling Jack, during my untap phase I move a >> counter from my pool to the card, and then give the card >> to another Methuselah with the Succubus Club, will I need >> to burn a blood/pool for each counter the card has during >> the same untap phase? > > > Yes. Would it be legal to declare that you have paid that penalty before you send the card off to another player? You *do* have the option of ordering your phase as you see fit. There seems to be nothing from stopping a player from declaring the Jack penalty even if it does not currently effect them. Raille

"LSJ" <vtesr...@TRAPwhite-wolf.com> wrote in message news:tBQ5e.6185$44....@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net... > Raille wrote: >> "LSJ" <vtesr...@TRAPwhite-wolf.com> wrote in message >>>"Daneel" <dan...@eposta.hu> wrote in message >>>>If I control Smiling Jack, during my untap phase I move a >>>> counter from my pool to the card, and then give the card >>>> to another Methuselah with the Succubus Club, will I need >>>> to burn a blood/pool for each counter the card has during >>>> the same untap phase? >>> >>>Yes. >> >> Would it be legal to declare that you have paid that penalty before you >> send the card off to another player? You *do* have the option of >> ordering your phase as you see fit. There seems to be nothing from >> stopping a player from declaring the Jack penalty even if it does not >> currently effect them. > > Card text. Only "other" Methuselahs pay the penalty in question. > > You can move Smiling Jack before you pay your one pool "you" penalty, > but you'll still have to pay the X pool/blood "others" penalty when > you are among the "others". > > -- Another way to look at it is that you can't finish your untap (or any other phase) without handling all the things that are pending in that phase. You handle the "you" penalty by transferring SJ, so no need to move the one pool to Jack. But that queues up another untap phase thing that you have to handle before you can move to your master phase. I'm not saying anything different about the specific Succubus Jack situation, of course, but Josh Duffin explained something similar this way to me once, and I've found it's a good general rule for all sorts of things. Josh is useful that way. ;) - Pat

"Pat" <patrick.l...@comcast.nyetspam.net> wrote in message news:gMadncJDOdN...@comcast.com... [ quoted text not captured ] Looks clear enough for me. I didn't take the time to pull up the specific card text. Raille