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Keystone Kine, Obfuscate, Dabbler

5 messages from 4 participants · 31 August 2010 – 01 September 2010
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DeathInABottle

Can a vampire "use" the obfuscate option on Keystone Kine if the target of the bleed does not control an ally? E.g. if Rafaele Giovanni is a Dabbler and she bleeds her prey using Keystone Kine but her prey does not control an ally, can she still use Dabbler to gain a blood or untap? Keystone Kine Requires an anarch. [cel] and/or [nec] and/or [obf] (D) Bleed. If using [cel], he or she gains 1 blood. If using [nec], the bleed is at +1 bleed. If using [obf] and this action is successful, you may burn an ally controlled by your prey whose cost is not greater than the bleed amount. Dabbler Master: archetype. Trifle. Put this card on a vampire you control. Once each turn when this vampire uses 3 or more Disciplines to play cards during an action, he or she may gain 1 blood from the bank or burn 1 blood to untap (after the action is resolved). A vampire can have only one archetype.

Janne Hägglund

DeathInABottle <li...@uvic.ca> writes: [ quoted text not captured ] I'd say yes, because [obf] Keystone Kine says: "you *may* burn an ally..." Just say "I choose not to burn an ally," and it should be perfectly fine. HG

Jozxyqk

DeathInABottle <li...@uvic.ca> wrote: > Can a vampire "use" the obfuscate option on Keystone Kine if the > target of the bleed does not control an ally? E.g. if Rafaele > Giovanni is a Dabbler and she bleeds her prey using Keystone Kine but > her prey does not control an ally, can she still use Dabbler to gain a > blood or untap? Sure. Daliyah could even bleed with Keystone Kine at "just obf" just so she could untap with CrimethInc, with no allies on the table.

LSJ

[ quoted text not captured ] Correct. Besides, which Discipline are used is specified when the card is played.

DeathInABottle

On Aug 31, 3:43 pm, LSJ <vtes...@white-wolf.com> wrote: > On Aug 31, 3:11 pm, h...@iki.fi (Janne Hägglund) wrote: > > > > > > > DeathInABottle <li...@uvic.ca> writes: > > > Can a vampire "use" the obfuscate option on Keystone Kine if the > > > target of the bleed does not control an ally?  E.g. if Rafaele > > > Giovanni is a Dabbler and she bleeds her prey using Keystone Kine but > > > her prey does not control an ally, can she still use Dabbler to gain a > > > blood or untap? > > > > Keystone Kine > > > Requires an anarch. > > > [cel] and/or [nec] and/or [obf] (D) Bleed. If using [cel], he or she > > > gains 1 blood. If using [nec], the bleed is at +1 bleed. If using > > > [obf] and this action is successful, you may burn an ally controlled > > > by your prey whose cost is not greater than the bleed amount. > > > > Dabbler > > > Master: archetype. Trifle. > > > Put this card on a vampire you control. Once each turn when this > > > vampire uses 3 or more Disciplines to play cards during an action, he > > > or she may gain 1 blood from the bank or burn 1 blood to untap (after > > > the action is resolved). A vampire can have only one archetype. > > > I'd say yes, because [obf] Keystone Kine says: "you *may* burn an ally..." > > Just say "I choose not to burn an ally," and it should be perfectly fine. > > Correct. > > Besides, which Discipline are used is specified when the card is > played. Thanks!