rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad

TOM: question re encountering in torpor

5 messages from 5 participants · 28 December 1994 – 13 January 1995
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Josh Hsu

In article <D1IAD...@freenet.carleton.ca>, Christopher Kelly <aj...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA> wrote: > >Forgive me if this question has already been asked, but it is a subject of >much debate in my Jyhad circle. > >In the rules (I have the corrected rule book) it says that encountering a >vampire in torpor is an action that, if successful, give you the option of >rescuing or diablerizing the encountered vampire. The question under >debate is whether the encountering is done on one turn and the >rescue/diablerize is on the next turn, or if it all occurs on one turn. It >would appear that it is two turns, as encountering can be blocked and so >can rescuing/diablerizing. If it does take two turns, it makes Chantry one >hell of a good card! Your vamp. takes an action to encounter another vampire in torpor. By successfully encountering that vamp, your vamp can either diablerize it or rescue it(its part of the encountering action). So, yes, it is all one action.

Christopher Kelly

Forgive me if this question has already been asked, but it is a subject of much debate in my Jyhad circle. In the rules (I have the corrected rule book) it says that encountering a vampire in torpor is an action that, if successful, give you the option of rescuing or diablerizing the encountered vampire. The question under debate is whether the encountering is done on one turn and the rescue/diablerize is on the next turn, or if it all occurs on one turn. It would appear that it is two turns, as encountering can be blocked and so can rescuing/diablerizing. If it does take two turns, it makes Chantry one hell of a good card! Thank you for your time. -- An optimist says the glass is half full. A pessimist says the glass is half empty. A realist wants to know what's IN the glass...

Thomas R Wylie

Christopher Kelly <aj...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA> wrote: > >In the rules (I have the corrected rule book) it says that encountering a >vampire in torpor is an action that, if successful, give you the option of >rescuing or diablerizing the encountered vampire. The question under >debate is whether the encountering is done on one turn and the >rescue/diablerize is on the next turn, or if it all occurs on one turn... The full action is "encounter <name> in torpor to <rescue/diablerize". If the action is not blocked, then the vampire is immeidately rescued or diablerized, as appropriate. Tom Wylie rec.games.trading-cards.* Network Representative for aa...@cats.ucsc.edu Wizards of the Coast, Inc.

Panther

In article <3dtvgf$5...@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>, aa...@cats.ucsc.edu (Thomas R Wylie) says: > >Christopher Kelly <aj...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA> wrote: >> >>In the rules (I have the corrected rule book) it says that encountering a >>vampire in torpor is an action that, if successful, give you the option of >>rescuing or diablerizing the encountered vampire. The question under >>debate is whether the encountering is done on one turn and the >>rescue/diablerize is on the next turn, or if it all occurs on one turn... > >The full action is "encounter <name> in torpor to <rescue/diablerize". >If the action is not blocked, then the vampire is immeidately rescued >or diablerized, as appropriate. > > Ok, but is the rescue/diablerize an *automatic* function, or can an enemy Methuselah declare a block of a vamp attempting to rescue itself from torpor, successfully block, but not diablerize (in this case, because he didn't want to incur the vote for a bloodhunt, which he was destined to lose)? The rulebook says 'may diablerize', so we assumed the enemy Kindred has a choice as to whether to diablerize or not. What's the verdict, Tom? -Forrest

ek letters

Also, I have heard that it is possible to block an attempt by a minion to release itself (which attempt to block cannot be blocked or avoided except by increasing the stealth on the minion), and burn without diablerizing...