Q: Kiss of Lachesis + equipment cost reduction

Two related questions: first off, can I use Powerbase Tswane or Eccentric Billionaire to reduce the cost of equipment I retrieve from my own ash heap via Kiss of Lachesis? Both say that they reduce the cost of a card I play by one, so does Kiss of Lachesis count for that? If yes to above, how does the reduction work? Is the original cost reduced (and then halved by Lachesis) or is the halved cost reduced by one? //Petri

Petri Wessman wrote: > Two related questions: first off, can I use Powerbase Tswane or > Eccentric Billionaire to reduce the cost of equipment I retrieve from > my own ash heap via Kiss of Lachesis? Both say that they reduce the > cost of a card I play by one, so does Kiss of Lachesis count for that? Kiss counts that, yeah. > If yes to above, how does the reduction work? Is the original cost > reduced (and then halved by Lachesis) or is the halved cost reduced by > one? RTR 7/7/7: All cost-affecting cards operate no matter how the card is played ("as normal" or otherwise). All multiplication and division is handled first, followed by addition and subtraction.

On Sun, 6 Jul 2008 04:18:32 -0700 (PDT), Petri Wessman wrote: >Two related questions: first off, can I use Powerbase Tswane or >Eccentric Billionaire to reduce the cost of equipment I retrieve from >my own ash heap via Kiss of Lachesis? No. >Both say that they reduce the >cost of a card I play by one, so does Kiss of Lachesis count for that? Kiss of Lachesis is the only card you are playing. Its blood cost can be reduced, but not by either of those cards. You aren't "playing" the equipment, you are moving it. LSJ 10-25-06 http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad/msg/6d4f0aef88e43532 http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/index.php?line=cardlist Kiss of Lachesis [BL:C1, LoB:C] Cardtype: Action Cost: 1 blood Discipline: Temporis/Serpentis +1 stealth action. [ser] (D) Burn a retainer or a non-unique equipment card. [tem] (D) Burn a retainer, ally or non-unique equipment card. [TEM] Move a non-unique equipment card from any Methuselah's ash heap to this vampire. If the equipment card comes from your ash heap, pay half the cost (round down), otherwise no cost is paid. Artist: Dennis Calero Powerbase: Tshwane [LoB:R] Cardtype: Master Master: unique location. Requires a ready Laibon. Tap this location to reduce the cost of a card you play by 1 pool (this location is not tapped if that card is canceled as it is played). Any Laibon may steal this location for his or her controller as a (D) action. Artist: William O'Connor Eccentric Billionaire [SoC:C] Cardtype: Ally Clan: Toreador antitribu Cost: 3 pool Mortal with 1 life. 0 strength, 2 bleed. Billionaire may tap to reduce the cost of an equipment or location you or any of your minions play by 1 pool. Only one Billionaire may be used to reduce the cost of a given card. Artist: Pat McEvoy

[ quoted text not captured ] Ok. So just to be clear, if I use Kiss of Lachesis to fetch an Assault Rifle from my own ash heap, and I use either Powerbase: Tshwane or Eccentric Billionaire to reduce cost, the weapon costs me 1 pool? (base cost of 5 is halved and rounded down by KoL, and the resulting cost of 2 is reduced by one by PB:T or EB). //Petri

[ quoted text not captured ] In that case, when do you tap Tshwane? When the Kiss is played, or when it's successful and you're moving the Rifle to your vampire? John Eno

On Jul 7, 1:53 pm, LSJ <vtes...@white-wolf.com> wrote: > Kushiel wrote: > > In that case, when do you tap Tshwane? When the Kiss is played, or > > when it's successful and you're moving the Rifle to your vampire? > > The latter Okay, thanks. John Eno