LSJ-2 Questions

If a vampire with a Regent card on her becomes a cardinal through Cardinal Benediction, is the Regent card burned? Can you cycle Eagle's Sight at superior even if you were already able to block? Ex: Meth Goofball has 1 untapped minion with superior Auspex. Meth Stinky (Goofball's prey) attempts to hunt with Lambach. Goofball: "Hmm....Lambach is mean, but I'll play Eagle's Sight superior to regain the ability to block, but I will fail to block since I don't generate intercept." Thanks, -Brian Name: Regent [SW] Cardtype: Master Cost: 1 pool Unique master. Put this card on a Sabbat vampire you control with a capacity above 7. This vampire has the title of cardinal and has one additional vote as well. Burn this card if this vampire receives another title. Any Sabbat vampire with a different controller can enter combat with this vampire as a (D) action. If a Sabbat vampire diablerizes this vampire, move this card to the diablerist (before the blood hunt is called). Name: Eagle's Sight [Jyhad, V:TES] Cardtype: Reaction Discipline: Auspex [aus] This reacting vampire gets +1 intercept. [AUS] This reacting vampire may attempt to block any action of any minion.

Brian Reed wrote: > > If a vampire with a Regent card on her becomes a cardinal through Cardinal > Benediction, is the Regent card burned? Yes. > Can you cycle Eagle's Sight at superior even if you were already able to > block? Yes. [ quoted text not captured ] -- LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc. Links to revised rulebook, rulings, errata, and tournament rules: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/

"LSJ" <vte...@white-wolf.com> wrote in message news:3C50001...@white-wolf.com... > Brian Reed wrote: > > > > If a vampire with a Regent card on her becomes a cardinal through Cardinal > > Benediction, is the Regent card burned? > > Yes. > "Cardinal" is a different title from "Cardinal"???

In message <FtX38.800$PQ5....@rwcrnsc52.ops.asp.att.net>, "Chris Berger" <ark...@ugcs.caltech.edu> mumbled something about: [ quoted text not captured ] Besides the "a vampire may only have one title", we can also point out that you can't call a Cardinal Benediction on the same vampire twice and give him 6 votes. -- "There's no gray. There's just white that's got grubby." -- T.P.

"Derek Ray" <lor...@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:86i05ukd9cnr9o1v8...@4ax.com... > In message <FtX38.800$PQ5....@rwcrnsc52.ops.asp.att.net>, > "Chris Berger" <ark...@ugcs.caltech.edu> mumbled something about: > > >"Cardinal" is a different title from "Cardinal"??? > > Besides the "a vampire may only have one title", we can also point out > that you can't call a Cardinal Benediction on the same vampire twice and > give him 6 votes. > A Cardinal becoming a Cardinal is not gaining "another title". For precedent, I'd also like to point out that a vampire Clan Impersonating to his own clan is not "changing clans" and thus doesn't change sects. You can certainly call Cardinal Benediction on the same vampire twice. He doesn't gain 6 votes, but he also doesn't lose his Cardinal title at any point in there.

[ quoted text not captured ] No. However, card text doesn't require "a different", merely "another", title. If he receives another title, even another Cardinal title, Regent is lost (card text). [ quoted text not captured ]

[ quoted text not captured ] You are mistaken. He loses his former Cardinal title when he gains his new one. [TOM 23-APR-1996] [ quoted text not captured ]

In message <W4Z38.101$sw6...@rwcrnsc51.ops.asp.att.net>, "Chris Berger" <ark...@ugcs.caltech.edu> mumbled something about: >"Derek Ray" <lor...@yahoo.com> wrote in message >news:86i05ukd9cnr9o1v8...@4ax.com... >> Besides the "a vampire may only have one title", we can also point out >> that you can't call a Cardinal Benediction on the same vampire twice and >> give him 6 votes. >> >A Cardinal becoming a Cardinal is not gaining "another title". For >precedent, I'd also like to point out that a vampire Clan Impersonating to >his own clan is not "changing clans" and thus doesn't change sects. You can >certainly call Cardinal Benediction on the same vampire twice. He doesn't >gain 6 votes, but he also doesn't lose his Cardinal title at any point in >there. He loses his initial Cardinal title at the point when the second Cardinal referendum passes, much like he would lose an Archbishopric if he currently possessed one of those. He MUST lose one Cardinal title, or he'd have 6 votes. [ quoted text not captured ]

"LSJ" <vte...@white-wolf.com> wrote in message news:3C5086DE...@white-wolf.com... > Chris Berger wrote: > > > > A Cardinal becoming a Cardinal is not gaining "another title". For > > precedent, I'd also like to point out that a vampire Clan Impersonating to > > his own clan is not "changing clans" and thus doesn't change sects. You can > > certainly call Cardinal Benediction on the same vampire twice. He doesn't > > gain 6 votes, but he also doesn't lose his Cardinal title at any point in > > there. > > You are mistaken. He loses his former Cardinal title when he gains his new one. > [TOM 23-APR-1996] > Let's see... [TOM 19960423] - the only ruling for that date is "The Treatment does nothing to the target Prince if the Prince is in Torpor with no blood." Ah yes, I see how that applies.

[ quoted text not captured ] OK. For those in the back: From: aa...@cats.ucsc.edu (Thomas R Wylie) Subject: Re: Praxis Date: 1996/04/23 Message-ID: <4lj9mo$7...@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>#1/1 references: <Pine.A32.3.91.960418...@cymbal.aix.calpoly.edu> <ewwa-19049...@porta12.chattanooga.net> organization: University of California, Santa Cruz newsgroups: rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad J. Andrew Lipscomb <ew...@chattanooga.net> wrote: >It couldn't increase again that way; London is not a bonus city for the >Ventrue (oddly, Geneva is, although its natural prince is a Gangrel). I >had wondered about that in a slightly different context--namely, what >would happen if Costanza Vinti (Brujah, prince of Rome) won a PS: Rome (a >bonus city for the Brujah, but she already held the title). Technically, if the PS passes for Constanza, then she loses her old title and gains the new one. The fact that the city happens to be the same isn't important. Thus, she gets the +1 capacity for having the PS: Rome title. Tom Wylie rec.games.trading-cards.* Network Representative for aa...@cats.ucsc.edu Wizards of the Coast, Inc. [ quoted text not captured ]