Have a few questions about some stuff that came up in a game last night.
If anyone could help, that would be awesome!
Thanks in advance!
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Gisela
Ability: Gisela can burn a vampire in your prey's uncontrolled region as a
(D) action that costs X blood, where X is the amount of blood on that
vampire; any blood on that vampire is returned to your prey's pool.
What I want to know, is, X blood, can mean, 0 to 11 blood. Am I right?
Because it doesn't say, at least one blood, so I would assume I could start
ripping into my prey's uncontrolled region as soon as I bring her out.
I would take X to mean any number including zero, but I could just be getting
literal about it. I thought that it meant, it had to have at least one blood,
but there isn't anything that says different.
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Ok, the next one is a bit of confusing one for me.
I get into combat with an Tegyrius, he does 6 damage to me, I do only 2, he
then puts on a Disarm on Juggler (who has depravity on him) and uses it at
superior.
So, I effectively have 0 strength now. Because I had 2 strength the last
round.
I get Juggler out of torpor and into combat, I play a Torn Signpost at
superior which sets my hand damage to 3, plus 1 with the Depravity makes my
strength 4, but my question is, does that negate the effects of the Disarm,
or does it count, and my strength is now 2, or is the Disarm canceled?
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My last question is about forthcoming expansions. I just wondering if any new
bloodlines Clan specific cards/Vamps were coming out, for the clans like
Harbingers, Salubri etc, and in the next actual expansion coming in Feb?
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Yorick wrote:
> Ability: Gisela can burn a vampire in your prey's uncontrolled region as a
> (D) action that costs X blood, where X is the amount of blood on that
> vampire; any blood on that vampire is returned to your prey's pool.
>
> What I want to know, is, X blood, can mean, 0 to 11 blood. Am I right?
Yes. Gisela can burn an uncontrolled vamp with 0 blood on it for free.
> I get into combat with an Tegyrius, he does 6 damage to me, I do only 2, he
> then puts on a Disarm on Juggler (who has depravity on him) and uses it at
> superior.
>
> So, I effectively have 0 strength now. Because I had 2 strength the last
> round.
>
> I get Juggler out of torpor and into combat, I play a Torn Signpost at
> superior which sets my hand damage to 3, plus 1 with the Depravity makes my
> strength 4, but my question is, does that negate the effects of the Disarm,
> or does it count, and my strength is now 2, or is the Disarm canceled?
Strength is now 2. Torn Signpost only negates other strength-setting
effects (eg, Erosion).
--Colin McGuigan
Colin McGuigan <magu...@BGONEspeakeasy.net> wrote:
> Yorick wrote:
> > Ability: Gisela can burn a vampire in your prey's uncontrolled region as a
> > (D) action that costs X blood, where X is the amount of blood on that
> > vampire; any blood on that vampire is returned to your prey's pool.
> >
> > What I want to know, is, X blood, can mean, 0 to 11 blood. Am I right?
>
> Yes. Gisela can burn an uncontrolled vamp with 0 blood on it for free.
Correct.
> > I get into combat with an Tegyrius, he does 6 damage to me, I do only 2, he
> > then puts on a Disarm on Juggler (who has depravity on him) and uses it at
> > superior.
> >
> > So, I effectively have 0 strength now. Because I had 2 strength the last
> > round.
> >
> > I get Juggler out of torpor and into combat, I play a Torn Signpost at
> > superior which sets my hand damage to 3, plus 1 with the Depravity makes my
> > strength 4, but my question is, does that negate the effects of the Disarm,
> > or does it count, and my strength is now 2, or is the Disarm canceled?
>
> Strength is now 2. Torn Signpost only negates other strength-setting
> effects (eg, Erosion).
Correct.
--
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LSJ wrote:
> Colin McGuigan <magu...@BGONEspeakeasy.net> wrote:
> > Yorick wrote:
> > > Ability: Gisela can burn a vampire in your prey's uncontrolled region as a
> > > (D) action that costs X blood, where X is the amount of blood on that
> > > vampire; any blood on that vampire is returned to your prey's pool.
> > >
> > > What I want to know, is, X blood, can mean, 0 to 11 blood. Am I right?
> >
I don't think your prey could have a vamp with 11 blood on it, could it? Wouldn't
any vamp with 11 blood on it immediately become controlled at the end of that
influence phase? Brainwash? Or Banishment. Ah yes, Banishment. Never mind.
In theory then, the vampire could have a very high amount of blood on it, no?
Lazar Dobrescu has 31 discipline cards and 16 Sanguine Instructions on him
(capacity 50), and then get's Giant's Blooded. Watenda has an equal amount of
discipline cards and Sanguines, but also has been voted the Prince of Stockholm
(capacity 51). He banishes Lazar, it will cost Gisela 50 blood. Hmmm.... Now how
do we get Gisela to 50 capacity - is it even possible? And what other capacity
increasers am I missing?
>
> > Yes. Gisela can burn an uncontrolled vamp with 0 blood on it for free.
>
> Correct.
>
Best -
chris
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chris shorb
prince of torrance, where the 5th tradition rules.
>I don't think your prey could have a vamp with 11 blood on it, could it?
>Wouldn't
>any vamp with 11 blood on it immediately become controlled at the end of that
>influence phase? Brainwash? Or Banishment. Ah yes, Banishment. Never
>mind.
>In theory then, the vampire could have a very high amount of blood on it, no?
>Lazar Dobrescu has 31 discipline cards and 16 Sanguine Instructions on him
>(capacity 50), and then get's Giant's Blooded. Watenda has an equal amount
>of
>discipline cards and Sanguines, but also has been voted the Prince of
>Stockholm
>(capacity 51). He banishes Lazar, it will cost Gisela 50 blood. Hmmm....
>Now how
>do we get Gisela to 50 capacity - is it even possible? And what other
>capacity
>increasers am I missing?
Banishment, Reality, and Honor the Elders are all ways to get excess blood on
vampires (compared to their "true" capacities).
Camarilla Vitae Slave is usually the easiest example to use as a capacity
increaser, since it's non-unique and stackable.
Halcyan 2
Yorick <seras...@darksites.com> wrote in message news:<0001HW.BCE9DCB8001142E3F02845B0@shawnews>...
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>
> My last question is about forthcoming expansions. I just wondering if any new
> bloodlines Clan specific cards/Vamps were coming out, for the clans like
> Harbingers, Salubri etc, and in the next actual expansion coming in Feb?
>
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While no specifics have been mentioned, LSJ has recently stated (in
the developer chat last month) "There will be more Bloodlines in
future expansions, hopefully, yes." It's way too early to know much in
the way of specifics about the February expansion cards; I wouldn't be
surprised if that set were still being playtested.
-John Flournoy