I'll let U check by yourself this nifty Osembo Out-of-Turn Master.
On another matter, I'm really surprised by the choice of Bloodlines
Rares reprints. There are already 2 cards I'd rather not get and have
to trade again : Ashes to Ashes and Basylisk's Touch, both very
cornercase and mostly very uninteresting even if you like the concerned
clans. I certainly hope the next reprints are a little more enjoyable,
because these are very disappointing to me.
Orpheus
Nice. Although Master-out-of-turn can make it rarely seen.
Few questions to LSJ about timing. My Osebo blocks an action and combat
starts. After the initial strikes the acting vampire with CEL chooses to
play Pursuit for an additional strike. (1). I choose not to play a
combat card that would give me an additional strike. (2). As an
additional strike the acting vampire chooses to strike with a hand
strike. (3). At this point my Osebo would choose his potential first
additional strike.
Which is the last moment (1), (2) or (3), at which point I can play
Battle Frenzy to get an additional strike that turn.
My guess would be (3).
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Like all other addional strike gainers, the answer is (1) (instead of
choosing not to get any additional strikes, you'd choose to get some).
--
That is my story, be it bitter or be it sweet.
Keep a little and let a little come back to me.
LSJ (vtesr...@TRAPwhite-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep (remove spam trap to
reply)
http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/
Screaming Vermillian wrote:
> Did you see that Antoinette Dubois?
>
> Is she like the vis merging of Antoinette she who watches + Catherine
> Du Boise?
>
> ~SV
LOOOOOOOOL. Yes, she's a Daughter so she could be a mix between
Toreador and Ventrue gals, no problem.
Orpheus
Orpheus wrote:
> I'll let U check by yourself this nifty Osembo Out-of-Turn Master.
Nice. The Osebo are the guardians. This with Depravity and Trap will
make wonders.
> On another matter, I'm really surprised by the choice of Bloodlines
> Rares reprints. There are already 2 cards I'd rather not get and have
> to trade again : Ashes to Ashes and Basylisk's Touch, both very
> cornercase and mostly very uninteresting even if you like the concerned
> clans. I certainly hope the next reprints are a little more enjoyable,
> because these are very disappointing to me.
> Orpheus
This has been already debated here and on the WW forum, but here we go.
- Bloodlines has 60 Rares (not counting the 10 vampires).
- 1 of these has already been reprinted (Call the Great Beast).
- That means only 9 of the BL Rares will not be reprinted, all the
others are on the "see you again" list.
- BL had around 10 or 11 (forgot the exact number) of Rares that do not
are directly linked to any Bloodline - i.e., do not have a bloodline
requirement nor involve any bloodline unique discipline.
- The somewhat logical reasoning for this expansion to include
Bloodline reprints is that new players would need to buy Bloodlines to
be able to use any Legacies material.
Which Rares will be left behind or not are no more than a guess, but
this information above leads to the conclusion that all
bloodline-related Rares (either by clan or unique discipline
requirement) will be on the "yay" list. This includes Basilisk's Touch
and Ashes to Ashes. Mind you, I really want to make a stupid deck with
10 Ashes to Ashes, so I welcome new copies ;)
best,
Fabio "Sooner" Macedo
> Nice. Although Master-out-of-turn can make it rarely seen.
>
I imagine it'll get a lot of play at Prereleases. Here, Cross-table
Buddy, have an Additional Strike on that blocked Rush action.
Fabio 'Sooner' Macedo wrote:
>
> Which Rares will be left behind or not are no more than a guess, but
> this information above leads to the conclusion that all
> bloodline-related Rares (either by clan or unique discipline
> requirement) will be on the "yay" list. This includes Basilisk's Touch
> and Ashes to Ashes. Mind you, I really want to make a stupid deck with
> 10 Ashes to Ashes, so I welcome new copies ;)
Well, so far only Beast Meld has been skipped in the alphabetical order
list.
Fabio 'Sooner' Macedo wrote:
>
> Which Rares will be left behind or not are no more than a guess, but
> this information above leads to the conclusion that all
> bloodline-related Rares (either by clan or unique discipline
> requirement) will be on the "yay" list. This includes Basilisk's Touch
> and Ashes to Ashes. Mind you, I really want to make a stupid deck with
> 10 Ashes to Ashes, so I welcome new copies ;)
>
Oh, its stupid all right. I traded for 10-12 Ashes to Ashes when
Bloodlines first came out and made a deck around them. Going to torpor
is always a risk, well, getting out without being eaten is the real
risk. :P Ashes to Ashes, Undead Persistence, and then more Ashes to
Ashes in further rounds of combat is fun. Who knew you could prevent
damage and gain blood at the same time (plus an untap). I think I'll
revisit it some day since Genina "loves" torpor so much, I think she
could get good use out of Ashes to Ashes.
Later,
~Rehlow
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Now, Bond with the Mountain has been skipped as well. 2 cards I didn't
need more of. So far, so good. As long as they reprint Shroud, I'll
be happy.
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Well, today they skipped Call the Great Beast, as expected, and The
Call. That gives us four of the ten. I didn't expect to see a lot of
the non-Bloodline combo discipline cards, but I think we'll see some of
them. There might not be any vamps in this set that could play Beast
Meld, The Call, or Nightmare Curse, but some of the others work for
Bloodlines. Elemental Stoicism works for Samedi, Shroud of Absence
works for Kyasid, and Soul Painting should work for the Ishtarri.
My guess is that the other six we won't get reprints of are:
Condemnation ---- (I'm not sure which, but I bet we lose one of them.
My hope would be Languid)
Denial of Aphrodite's Favor
Drought of the Soul
Iron Heart (Even though the Guruhi could play it)
Nightmare Curse (Which is a shame)
Soul Painting (Even though the Ishtarri could play it)