LotN Compel the Spirit reprint question and silly error

So, after today's release event, I picked up one of each starter. After noticing the new artwork for Compel the Spirit in the Giovanni starter, I noticed 2 things: 1) The last sentence says: "If it is a retainer is chosen..." How did that get past the editing phase? ! :) 2) Excerpt from old text: "Move X life counters from the blood bank to the card, where X is the number of life printed on the card." Excerpt from new text: "...move it to your ready region with X life from the blood bank, where X is the starting life..." Does this new text finally allow us to play Compel the Spirit on Shambling Hordes? It seems like "yes", since it is not "moving" life but is more of a reminder of how much life it has.

Jozxyqk wrote: > Excerpt from old [Compel the Spirit] text: > "Move X life counters from the blood bank to the card, where X is the number > of life printed on the card." > > Excerpt from new text: > "...move it to your ready region with X life from the blood bank, where X is > the starting life..." > > Does this new text finally allow us to play Compel the Spirit on Shambling > Hordes? > It seems like "yes", since it is not "moving" life but is more of a reminder > of how much life it has. The text means that it still works, like it did before.

On Sun, 30 Sep 2007 20:18:42 -0500, Jozxyqk wrote: >How did that get past the editing phase? ! :) The editor has been demoted, and now works exclusively in sales. Carpe noctem. Lasombra http://www.TheLasombra.com Your best online source for information about V:TES. Now also featuring individual card sales and sales of booster and starter box displays.

[ quoted text not captured ] Huh. I thought I had remembered that Compel+Horde didn't work, but after some google searching, I found that I was wrong. I guess what I was thinking of was Heaven's Gate. http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad/msg/165726c030ac23e2 Why does Compel the Spirit work on Shambling Hordes (with old text), but Heaven's Gate does not? The difference is almost purely between the words "Move" and "Put".

On Oct 1, 6:00 am, Jozxyqk <jfeue...@eecs.tufts.edu> wrote: > LSJ <vtes...@white-wolf.com> wrote: > > Jozxyqk wrote: > > > Excerpt from old [Compel the Spirit] text: > > > "Move X life counters from the blood bank to the card, where X is the number > > > of life printed on the card." > > > > Excerpt from new text: > > > "...move it to your ready region with X life from the blood bank, where X is > > > the starting life..." > > > > Does this new text finally allow us to play Compel the Spirit on Shambling > > > Hordes? > > > It seems like "yes", since it is not "moving" life but is more of a reminder > > > of how much life it has. > > The text means that it still works, like it did before. > > Huh. > I thought I had remembered that Compel+Horde didn't work, but after some google > searching, I found that I was wrong. > > I guess what I was thinking of was Heaven's Gate.http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad/msg/1657... > > Why does Compel the Spirit work on Shambling Hordes (with old text), > but Heaven's Gate does not? > The difference is almost purely between the words "Move" and "Put". The difference is that Compel the Spirit is putting a card into play (the Hordes have to be able to gain their starting life when they enter play, or the card wouldn't work at all), but Heaven's Gate prevents them from leaving play in the first place (and tries to put a life on the card already in play, which is disallowed by Shambling Hordes' card text). witness1

[ quoted text not captured ] Ok, that I knew. Now, I'd like to know if the "starting life" on a Shambling now means overseeds "normal version" and that a compelled Shambling will have 4 lives if it first came into the game with NEC ? -- Orpheus -------------------- "Never Kill Again To Live Another Golden Day", the James Bond movie you'll never see.

Orpheus wrote: > Ok, that I knew. Now, I'd like to know if the "starting life" on a Shambling > now means overseeds "normal version" and that a compelled Shambling will > have 4 lives if it first came into the game with NEC ? No. Compelled doesn't look at requirements, so it always uses the basic version.