rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad

Rumors Q's [LSJ]

2 messages from 2 participants · 13 February 2001 – 14 February 2001
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Pat Ricochet

Okay, until Google gets the archive online, I'll never know that this has been asked or not: Rumors of Gehenna [Jyhad, V:TES] Cardtype: Political Action Political Card-Worth 1 Vote. Called by any vampire at +1 stealth. Choose a set of Methuselahs. Successful <referendum> means each chosen Methuselah receives 2 master phase actions during his or her master phase (instead of 1). Any vampire can burn this card with a successful <referendum>; calling this <referendum> is a +1 stealth <political> action. This is a minion card, not a master card. Who controls it? Anyone? If I call Rumors of Gehenna, and give everyone 2 master phase actions, and then I'm ousted, what happens? 1) The card remains in play, and everyone else keep their master phase actions? 2) The card goes when I go, and everyone loses their extra master phase actions. Something that seems to be missing is a "put this card in play" sentence or somesuch. It certainly *implies* that since you can vote the card to burn, that burning the card removes the effect of the card, but that's not explicit. Seems obvious, though, or why would you burn the card? But, if the card is in play to be burned, doesn't SOMEONE have to control it? Related, I can certainly call a Rumors and give everyone but my prey 2 master phases, but then my predator calls a Rumors to give everyone 2 master phase actions. This is legal, and both cards remain in play, yes? And each Rumors would have to be voted down separately? -- Pat Ricochet Soul Jar'rn Fool of Atlanta

LSJ

Pat Ricochet wrote: > > Okay, until Google gets the archive online, I'll never know that this has > been asked or not: > > Rumors of Gehenna [Jyhad, V:TES] > Cardtype: Political Action > Political Card-Worth 1 Vote. Called by any vampire at +1 stealth. Choose a > set of Methuselahs. Successful <referendum> means each chosen Methuselah > receives 2 master phase actions during his or her master phase (instead of > 1). Any vampire can burn this card with a successful <referendum>; calling > this <referendum> is a +1 stealth <political> action. > > This is a minion card, not a master card. Who controls it? Anyone? > > If I call Rumors of Gehenna, and give everyone 2 master phase actions, and > then I'm ousted, what happens? > 1) The card remains in play, and everyone else keep their master phase > actions? > 2) The card goes when I go, and everyone loses their extra master phase > actions. 2) [1.3], [1.6.3] > Something that seems to be missing is a "put this card in play" sentence > or somesuch. It certainly *implies* that since you can vote the card to > burn, that burning the card removes the effect of the card, but that's not > explicit. Seems obvious, though, or why would you burn the card? > > But, if the card is in play to be burned, doesn't SOMEONE have to > control it? Yes. See the online card text. > Related, I can certainly call a Rumors and give everyone but my prey 2 > master phases, but then my predator calls a Rumors to give everyone 2 master > phase actions. This is legal, and both cards remain in play, yes? And each > Rumors would have to be voted down separately? Yes. -- LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc. Links to revised rulebook, rulings, errata, and tournament rules: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/