KNAL...@kentvm.kent.edu wrote:
: First and foremost, let me thank all the people on this net who are willing to
: spend the time to help a muddled newbie out.
I speak for no one but myself, and personally, You're Welcome. :-)
: However, everytime I tried a political action I was invariably blocked
: by vampires riding Sport Bikes(!) or some such...I was wondering how I
: could stealth my pol.act with the abilities (Dominate, Presence, and
: Fortitude) that I have?
Well, Master: Skill cards are commons, and therefore fairly easy to come
by. You could either put on some Auspex (and intercept them getting the
sports bike) or some Obfuscate (and stealth your way through).
Another way is to make it not worth their while to go after you - put a
big weapon (FlameThrower, Assault Rifle, even a shotgun!) on a vampire,
and call all your votes with him. That should make them think twice
about intercepting it... When you have fortitude cards up the wazoo,
combat is gonna hurt him an awful lot more than you. :-)
...and for about the thousandth time, NO! You cannot use Bonding for its
stealth alone! You must be performing a bleed, and then you get +1 stealth.
Regarding Sports Bikes vs. political actions, you could think of it this
way; in order to call a vote, you need to have all the vampires in one
place at the same time. A sports bike allows the blocker to get there
forst and beat the tar out of you before anyone else gets there. By the
time they do, you and he are off in a back alley somewhere duking it out,
so they all leave. Sort of a weak visualisation, but it might help...
I seriouslyt think your best bet is to get some Obfuscate skill cards and
put some Obfuscate in your deck. This will work both with the bleeds and
the votes (and ventrue are good at each!) Then you can pull nasty tricks
like calling a vote with your little vampire that you hope will get
blocked and using 'Mask of 1000 faces' to get the vamp with the
flamethrower in there... ouch.
Shane Travis | Opportunity is missed by most people because
sht...@duke.usask.ca | it is dressed in overalls and looks like work.
Saskatoon, Saskatchewan | -- Thomas Edison
> Reading the clan descriptions I happened to like the Ventrue the most so I
> picked them...However, everytime I tried a political action I was invariably> blocked by vampires riding Sport Bikes(!) or some such...I was wondering how I
> could stealth my pol.act with the abilities (Dominate, Presence, and Fortitude)
> that I have?
Many options:
- Get some intercept of your own (Sport Bikes, Radio Station, Auspex
skill cards, etc.) and keep your predator and prey from equipping
with the sport bikes
- Get some Obfuscate (skill cards) to hide with
- Use Majesty with superior Presence. Send out a big vamp; he'll get
blocked by a Biker. Use Majesty to end the combat and untap the
vampire - leaving the biker tapped. Then try again with another
political action.
- Use Freak Drive to take action again after being blocked
- Use the high-power Ventrue (lost the name) that has +1 stealth for
all political actions
- Bribe your opponents; if your predator and prey don't block your Kine
Resources Contested vote, promise to stick it to the former's
predator and/or the latter's prey... or promise to exclude them
from the Sabbat Threat... or promise that they'll be able to use
the Rumors of Gehenna... etc.
- Equip with big weapons (could be a problem if the Sport Bikes keep
you from equipping) to make yourself a threat to a blocker. Vast
Wealth is a good Master card to use to equip.
- Make a weenie Ventrue Famous, and give him a zip gun. Make sure
he goes to call a vote with only 1 blood. If he's blocked by the
biker, and strikes/is struck, he'll take 2 damage and go to
torpor - this is a threat to keep your prey from blocking.
- Keep Dawn Operation around, and when blocked, use it. If your
blockers don't back down, do enough damage to make sure they go
to torpor, and use damage prevention cards to keep yourself out. If
they do back down, you get your vote.
- For *real* fun, use Bum's Rush or Haven Uncovered to surprise the
troublesome vampires that have sport bikes - and use Dawn Operation
to make sure that all the damage in the ensuing combat is aggravated.
- If you get good at sending your opponents to torpor, consider
collecting Amaranth cards to diablerize them then and there.
If you're the Ventrue, chances are you've got the superior voting
capability, and won't have to worry about the bloodhunt vote.
As a special added bonus, you get all the blood and equipment that
your opponent had, and you might get a bonus Discipline to boot...
- Use Day Operation on very important votes (especially if called
by weenie famous vampires :-)
- Seduction, Obedience, and Blood Bond are good cards to prevent
specific vampires from blocking you.
> Related to this: isn't it a logical inconsistency in the game that
> a vamp on a sport bike can block a POLITICAL action? Why should regular
> intercepts block BOTH regular actions AND political actions?
The vampire calling the vote must make the others aware of the vote,
otherwise there is no vote. This "publicity" is what makes the vampire
susceptible to blocking. Note the implicit +1 stealth of political
actions implies that you don't have to expose yourself a lot to get
the vote, but there is always some exposure...
papillo the tranquilized
pap...@fc.hp.com (Bob Ellison) writes:
> - Seduction, Obedience, and Blood Bond are good cards to prevent
> specific vampires from blocking you.
Obedience is a reaction card, and of no use to an acting vampire
(unless you play WotC official Madness Network, and take an action during
some other Methuselah's turn, then I suppose you could use it :-).
L. Scott
> > - Seduction, Obedience, and Blood Bond are good cards to prevent
> > specific vampires from blocking you.> Obedience is a reaction card, and of no use to an acting vampire
> (unless you play WotC official Madness Network, and take an action during
> some other Methuselah's turn, then I suppose you could use it :-).
Oops. Sure enough. Look what I get for posting specific cards without
consulting a reference first. ;-)
Thanks for the correction -
papillo the pentagonal