Bonding

This has prolly already been asked many times, but since I haven't seen any of the answers, I will ask again :) Can superioir bonding be used to give the stealth bonus to a non-bleed action, like a vote action or such? It has been argued to death in my group from both perspective, so I wanted to get the right answer. Thank You Danny The oppinions above are mine, and are subject to change at any time without prior notice.

In article <49e3kv$9...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, wold...@aol.com (WOL DannyX) wrote: > This has prolly already been asked many times, but since I haven't seen > any of the answers, I will ask again :) Can superioir bonding be used to > give the stealth bonus to a non-bleed action, like a vote action or such? > It has been argued to death in my group from both perspective, so I wanted > to get the right answer. Unfortunately, no. I made this mistake for some time before I was corrected. If someone can give me the rationale (I always believed you could use _part_ of a card in Jyhad), I would appreciate it. Much thanks. "I can send and receive e-mail even over the Internet"-aol commercial @#$@#$@#$@#$@#$@#$@#$@#$@#$@#$@#$@#$@#$@#$@#$@#$@#$@#$@#$@#$@#$@#$@#$ # Adrian Sullivan sull...@cslab.uwlax.edu Spoutingly yours 8^) # $ GAT/CS/O/WS R+++* tv&--- b++(+++)&+ t X++&-- 5->? e+*>++++ PS+&-+ @ # PE&++&- C(+++)$ UX+>+++$ N++(+) K+>++++ w---$>? M++$ r(+) y*+? 3.1# @#$@#$@#$@#$@#$@#$@#$@#$@#$@#$@#$@#$@#$@#$@#$@#$@#$@#$@#$@#$@#$@#$@#$

wold...@aol.com (WOL DannyX) said: >This has prolly already been asked many times, but since I haven't seen >any of the answers, I will ask again :) Can superioir bonding be used to >give the stealth bonus to a non-bleed action, like a vote action or such? >It has been argued to death in my group from both perspective, so I wanted >to get the right answer. Peace Danny, No, Bonding (inferior or superior) may only be used as an action modifier for a Bleed action. Nil carborundum illigitimi, James R. McClure Jr. The OS/2 Apostle <insert disclaimer here>

Thank you James for such prompt response, but alas I beg you for another boon, can you or anyone else direct me toward somewhere official where this rulling was made (if such thing exist), not to say that I doubt your word, but my group isn't as trusting as I am. :) [ quoted text not captured ]

In article <49ffn5$k...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, WOL DannyX <wold...@aol.com> wrote: >Thank you James for such prompt response, but alas I beg you for another >boon, can you or anyone else direct me toward somewhere official where >this rulling was made (if such thing exist), not to say that I doubt your >word, but my group isn't as trusting as I am. :) > Certainly: (The complete text of this rules summary is available on my web site: http://www.math.sc.edu/~sjohnson/jyhad/DTR.html). From: aa...@hal.COM (Tom Wylie) Newsgroups: rec.games.deckmaster Subject: NEW: Rulings summary for Jyhad Date: 9 Nov 1994 13:11:24 -0800 Message-ID: <39rdts$s...@perv.hal.COM> You cannot play a modifier which doesn't match the action being modified. For example, you can only use Bonding during a bleed. [...] Bonding: The superior version cannot be used to increase the stealth of a non-bleed action; action modifiers which modify/replace bleed may only be used on bleed actions. -- ----- L. Scott Johnson (lsc...@crl.com) | The opinions expressed are mine Graphics Specialist and V:tES Rulemonger | and subject to card text

The Corrupter <sull...@cslab.uwlax.edu> writes: >In article <49e3kv$9...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, wold...@aol.com (WOL >DannyX) wrote: >> This has prolly already been asked many times, but since I haven't seen >> any of the answers, I will ask again :) Can superioir bonding be used to >> give the stealth bonus to a non-bleed action, like a vote action or such? >> It has been argued to death in my group from both perspective, so I wanted >> to get the right answer. >Unfortunately, no. I made this mistake for some time before I was >corrected. If someone can give me the rationale (I always believed you >could use _part_ of a card in Jyhad), I would appreciate it. Much thanks. Rationale: It is a bleed modifier, with a side effect of increased stealth. Except that: you may not use the superior version unless you *need* the side effect. Cards which may be used to partial effect: Anarch Troublemaker - may tap one or two minions Brujah Frenzy - can be used to block an action even if combat is impossible due to the target Brujah being in torpor (attempting self-rescue, or whatever). In this case, the action will be blocked, but no combat will occur. Cards which cannot be used for partial effect: Bonding - Must use the bleed enhancer - no adding stealth to non-bleed actions. Brujah Frenzy - even though the taget victim is not the blocking minion (the action is simply blocked), BF may not block the action unless there is a suitable (untapped, ready, opposing) minion to not block the action. That is, you might think that a Brujah could easily go into a frenzy even if no one was around, but that is not the case. The Second Tradition - Domain You must have a P/J who is *both* tapped and in need of intercept to play the card. An untapped Prince may not gain intercept with 2nd Trad, nor may a tapped Prince untap with 2nd. Trad if the acting minion is not at +X stealth. -- L. Scott Johnson (sjoh...@math.sc.edu) | These opinions are mine and http://www.math.sc.edu/~sjohnson | are subject to card text. Graphics Specialist and V:tES Rulemonger. |