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REPOST: Random Jyhad Rulings #2

2 messages from 1 participant · 01 September 1994 · rec.games.deckmaster
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Tom Wylie

/* ** Rulings which required followups are marked as *CONFIRMED*, *REVERSED*, ** or what have you. ** ** This list accurate as of 9/1/94. */ Ritual of the Bitter Rose: People have asked about the clause "Usable in combat if an enemy is burned", wondering how a vampire could ever be burned in combat yet still have blood on it. About the only way we've thought of is to send a vampire to torpor via aggravated damage but use Amaranth to burn it rather than letting it go to torpor. Then, assuming it still has blood on it, use RotBR. Tactical note: If you needed to get a vampire out of torpor but couldn't afford to tap your vampires to do so, you could bring out a duplicate vampire (thus bringing it into contention), then on your next untap, let the vampire in torpor go. Also useful if one of your vampires has something icky like Nosferatu Putresence on it, that you can't get rid of any other way. Confirmed that equipment, Camarilla Exemplaries, and such are played on a card rather than on a vampire's "name", so if you drop your contested vampire, equipment on it doesn't transfer to the other copy. Black Cat automatically reduces the blood cost of any equipment she has. This can affect the cost paid to bring the equipment out in the first place. So to equip her with a Deer Rifle would only cost 1 pool. But the bonus is only for her, so if some other vampire got that Deer Rifle, it would be treated as a 2-pool weapon again. Conversely, if she gets a Deer Rifle from somewhere else, it's treated as a 1-pool weapon as long as she has it. Note that a 1-pool item is treated as not having a pool cost at all, rather than being a 0-pool item, so if she had a Saturday Night Special (normally 1-pool) and a Peace Treaty passed, you wouldn't be able to pay for her to keep the gun. Confirmed that you get the Edge for bleeding any player, not just for bleeding your prey (section 12.3.1, "bleed"). Rotschrek does hose the vampire dealing the aggravated damage, not the vampire receiving it. Unsure what happens if you try to use it on an ally. *NOTE* Still no word on whether this will be reversed. Contested equipment and retainers are treated as being entirely out of play. You can't move contested equipment from one minion to another via the Equip action. You can't assign ranged damage to a contested retainer. You probably don't get contested equipment off a diablerized vampire, but that's being checked on. Tom Wylie rec.games.deckmaster Network Representative for aahz@hal.com Wizards of the Coast, Inc.

Tom Wylie

/* ** Rulings which required followups are marked as *CONFIRMED*, *REVERSED*, ** or what have you. ** ** This list accurate as of 9/1/94. */ Ritual of the Bitter Rose: People have asked about the clause "Usable in combat if an enemy is burned", wondering how a vampire could ever be burned in combat yet still have blood on it. About the only way we've thought of is to send a vampire to torpor via aggravated damage but use Amaranth to burn it rather than letting it go to torpor. Then, assuming it still has blood on it, use RotBR. Tactical note: If you needed to get a vampire out of torpor but couldn't afford to tap your vampires to do so, you could bring out a duplicate vampire (thus bringing it into contention), then on your next untap, let the vampire in torpor go. Also useful if one of your vampires has something icky like Nosferatu Putresence on it, that you can't get rid of any other way. Confirmed that equipment, Camarilla Exemplaries, and such are played on a card rather than on a vampire's "name", so if you drop your contested vampire, equipment on it doesn't transfer to the other copy. Black Cat automatically reduces the blood cost of any equipment she has. This can affect the cost paid to bring the equipment out in the first place. So to equip her with a Deer Rifle would only cost 1 pool. But the bonus is only for her, so if some other vampire got that Deer Rifle, it would be treated as a 2-pool weapon again. Conversely, if she gets a Deer Rifle from somewhere else, it's treated as a 1-pool weapon as long as she has it. Note that a 1-pool item is treated as not having a pool cost at all, rather than being a 0-pool item, so if she had a Saturday Night Special (normally 1-pool) and a Peace Treaty passed, you wouldn't be able to pay for her to keep the gun. Confirmed that you get the Edge for bleeding any player, not just for bleeding your prey (section 12.3.1, "bleed"). Rotschrek does hose the vampire dealing the aggravated damage, not the vampire receiving it. Unsure what happens if you try to use it on an ally. *NOTE* Still no word on whether this will be reversed. Contested equipment and retainers are treated as being entirely out of play. You can't move contested equipment from one minion to another via the Equip action. You can't assign ranged damage to a contested retainer. You probably don't get contested equipment off a diablerized vampire, but that's being checked on. Tom Wylie rec.games.deckmaster Network Representative for aahz@hal.com Wizards of the Coast, Inc.