Dueling Majesties

This came up in a game last night, and I am throwing it to the group for a clarification. We have two vampires, both with superior presence, one attacking, one blocking. The attacking vampire plays a majesty, which allows it to spend a blood to untap after ending combat. The question is, can the blocking vampire ALSO play a majesty and untap after combat, or does the combat end before the blocking vampire's action takes place? Thanks in advance, Jeff G.

On Sat, 27 Jul 1996, Jeff Grubb wrote: No way! The acting minion play cards first so if the acting minion plays the majesty first then the blocking minion doesn't get to play a card. I think the only way the blocking minion can play a card first is if it is a card says play before range is determined. [ quoted text not captured ] Everett Littles Cal Poly SLO Business MIS http://www.calpoly.edu/~elittles/park.html Clan Ravnos Home Page

On Sat, 27 Jul 1996, Everett Littles wrote: > On Sat, 27 Jul 1996, Jeff Grubb wrote: [Re: Two minions wanting to play Majesty] > > The question is, > > can the blocking vampire ALSO play a majesty and untap after combat, or > > does the combat end before the blocking vampire's action takes place? > No way! The acting minion play cards first so if the acting minion plays > the majesty first then the blocking minion doesn't get to play a card. > I think the only way the blocking minion can play a card first is if it > is a card says play before range is determined. Sorry, but this ruling changed some time ago. Opposing minions have the ability to play strike cards, but their strike will not resolve. In this case, the first minion will play S:CE and the second minion will play S:CE. The first minion's S:CE resolves, and the second minion's S:CE does not resolve. However, (contrary to how I feel things work intuitively) any _side effects_ (like untapping) are not effected by S:CE, thus both minions could untap. @ The Corrupter - Adrian Lee Sullivan @ GAT/CS/WS R+++* r(+)>++ # Gamer Coffee-Addict Scripter Author # C(+++)$ USX+$ N++ e+* @#$ Comments ? sull...@cslab.uwlax.edu $#@ tv(+)> X++ b++(+++) @#$ <http://cslab.uwlax.edu/~sulli_al/jyhad> $#@ PS+&-+ PE&-&++ z*+?

In article <Pine.A32.3.91.960727...@cymbal.aix.calpoly.edu>, Everett Littles <elit...@cymbal.aix.calpoly.edu> writes: > >No way! The acting minion play cards first so if the acting minion plays >the majesty first then the blocking minion doesn't get to play a card. >I think the only way the blocking minion can play a card first is if it >is a card says play before range is determined. > >> This came up in a game last night, and I am throwing it to the group for a >> clarification. We have two vampires, both with superior presence, one >> attacking, one blocking. The attacking vampire plays a majesty, which >> allows it to spend a blood to untap after ending combat. The question is, >> can the blocking vampire ALSO play a majesty and untap after combat, or >> does the combat end before the blocking vampire's action takes place? Way! Tom ruled that both minions may play S:CE and untap (if thay are able).

On 29 Jul 1996, Lion RAR wrote: Ok so I worded the responce wrong. What I meant was that the blocking minion does not play cards first but strike resolution happens at the same time. [ quoted text not captured ] Everett Littles Cal Poly SLO Business MIS [ quoted text not captured ]

On Sun, 28 Jul 1996, The Corrupter wrote: > Sorry, but this ruling changed some time ago. Opposing minions have the > ability to play strike cards, but their strike will not resolve. In this > case, the first minion will play S:CE and the second minion will play > S:CE. The first minion's S:CE resolves, and the second minion's S:CE > does not resolve. However, (contrary to how I feel things work > intuitively) any _side effects_ (like untapping) are not effected by > S:CE, thus both minions could untap. Maybe I am not comprehending this correctly. Are you saying that the acting minion's strikes are resolved first?

Everett Littles <elit...@cymbal.aix.calpoly.edu> writes: [ quoted text not captured ] The strikes resolve simultaneously. The acting minion merely announces (chooses) his strike first. -- L. Scott Johnson (sjoh...@math.sc.edu) | In theory there is no difference http://www.math.sc.edu/~sjohnson | between theory and practice. Graphics Specialist and V:tES Rulemonger. |