rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad

to hunt or not to hunt...

12 messages from 8 participants · 13 July 1997 – 23 July 1997
original thread on Google Groups

Demos

Alright, LSJ. We have a little disagreement in a game. One of my Vampires has Zero blood and has to hunt. I am not disputing that fact. What I am disputing is the fact that, that action, hunting, has to be declared FIRST. I don't ever remember reading in a rule book that I HAD to declare the "hunt" first before all things. But, I maybe wrong. Your guidance in this situation is appreciated. -- Respectfully, Demos Ventrue Elder

Demos

Please disregard that last message. After further review I found the answer I was looking for. I apologize for not looking hard enough. [ quoted text not captured ]

James Coupe

In article <01bc8f9d$9ece7820$6271...@acs.ohio-state.edu>, Demos <tagg...@osu.edu> writes >Please disregard that last message. After further review I found the >answer I was looking for. I apologize for not looking hard enough. > Gosh, being a Ventrue elder I'm surprised you couldn't get one of your minions to do it for you :-) -- James Coupe (note spam proof e-mail address) The owls are not what they seem.

LSJ (VtES Rep)

Demos wrote: > > Alright, LSJ. We have a little disagreement in a game. One of my Vampires > has Zero blood and has to hunt. I am not disputing that fact. What I am > disputing is the fact that, that action, hunting, has to be declared FIRST. When one (or more) of your ready vampires is empty and not prevented from hunting, your action must be a hunt taken by that (or one of those) vampire(s). You cannot take any other action as long as you have such vampires. -- L. Scott Johnson (vte...@regency.wizards.com) Official VtES Net.Rep for Wizards of the Coast. (*) - Subject to review by Rules Team

Eugene Martin

In article <33CA11...@regency.wizards.com>, "LSJ (VtES Rep)" <vte...@regency.wizards.com> wrote: > >Demos wrote: >> >> Alright, LSJ. We have a little disagreement in a game. One of my Vampires >> has Zero blood and has to hunt. I am not disputing that fact. What I am >> disputing is the fact that, that action, hunting, has to be declared FIRST. > >When one (or more) of your ready vampires is empty and not prevented >from hunting, your action must be a hunt taken by that (or one of those) >vampire(s). You cannot take any other action as long as you have such >vampires. I think what he means is does the vapire with no blood have to be the first acting minion? If you have two other vampires with blood on them, can they take actions before a vampire with no blood hunts? (This question has also come up in my gaming group.)

LSJ (VtES Rep)

[ quoted text not captured ] That's the question I answered. "You cannot take any other action as long as you have [any empty ready vampires that are not prevented from hunting]" The hypothetical action(s) to be taken by these two other (non-empty) vampires fall into the "other actions" category. These "other actions" cannot be taken while you have empty hunt-able [ quoted text not captured ]

Michael Beer

Eugene Martin wrote: > I think what he means is does the vapire with no blood have to be the first acting minion? If you > have two other vampires with blood on them, can they take actions before a vampire with no blood > hunts? (This question has also come up in my gaming group.) Nope. Take a look in the rulebook. It's in the V:TES-version on page 23. -- Michael Beer, Dortmund, Germany, ICQ 1175389 http://www.noefs.ping.de/user/mike/index.html -------------------------------------------- Life is founded on Chaos. So if you find your living room became disordered: Don't panic! It's natural... :)

Dark Angel

"LSJ (VtES Rep)" <vte...@regency.wizards.com> writes >That's the question I answered. >"You cannot take any other action as long as you have [any >empty ready vampires that are not prevented from hunting]" > >The hypothetical action(s) to be taken by these two other (non-empty) >vampires fall into the "other actions" category. > >These "other actions" cannot be taken while you have empty hunt-able >vampires. Just a little question from an occaional player... Do they HAVE to hunt, or could you just end your turn and leave them all untapped? It could be important if they have the sports bike or magic chainsaw. :> / Ne cede melia, Michael DISCLAMER: These opinions are my own and >>>>*====The Dark Angel========- | may change without prior notice \ mic...@biohazad.demon.co.uk QUOTE: Eight words the Wiccan Rede fulfill |Einstein: An ye harm none, do what ye will. | God does not play dice with the universe Lest in thy self defence it be. |Bohr: Albert, stop telling God what to do

LSJ (VtES Rep)

Dark Angel wrote: > [Re: Empty vampires] > Do they HAVE to hunt, or could you just end your turn and leave them > all untapped? It could be important if they have the sports bike or > magic chainsaw. :> They have to hunt. V:tES Rulebook, section 6.4: "... as long as they all hunt." [ quoted text not captured ]

James A Ignatuk

Excerpts from netnews.rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad: 20-Jul-97 Re: to hunt or not to hunt... by Dark An...@biohazad.demo > Just a little question from an occaional player... > > Do they HAVE to hunt, or could you just end your turn and leave them > all untapped? It could be important if they have the sports bike or > magic chainsaw. :> They have to hunt. Not only that, but they must hunt before any of your other minions perform any actions. Reason: they're vampires and they NEED blood. Take care, Jim

Boon Sian Chang

Michael Beer (Mi...@leila.ping.de) wrote: : Eugene Martin wrote: : > I think what he means is does the vapire with no blood have to be the first acting minion? If you : > have two other vampires with blood on them, can they take actions before a vampire with no blood : > hunts? (This question has also come up in my gaming group.) So, if a vampire with no blood attempts to hunt, but is blocked, does this mean the other vampires (with blood) still cannot take actions?

LSJ (VtES Rep)

[ quoted text not captured ] No. After being blocked, the empty vampire will no longer be untapped. (Part of the official rule, which I've already posted in this thread at least twice). Plus, he will be prohibited from hunting by the DCI "No Repeat Actions" rule. ("Not prohibited from hunting" is another part of the official hunting rule that I've posted). [ quoted text not captured ]