Q: Multiple target of a blood loss card (i.e. KRC)

Hi again, This one has to be cleared out in my head. I did asked a similar question in the past, but i wonder about the effect on this one. Here it goes: 1st) 5 player table 2nd) Pool left: A has 3 B, C, D, and E all have 1 3rd) Player A calls a Kine Resources Contested, no one blocks. Terms are that B, C, D, and E lose 1 pool each. Vote is successful. Q1: What happen to targeted players after vote takes effect? Q2: Who gets a victory points? Q3: Who gets the regular 6 pools by having its prey ousted? Other votes have similar effect. Conservative Agitation, Anarchist Uprising, Ancilla Empowerment,... Will these cards have to be handle the same way? GP41

GP41 <GP...@videotron.ca> wrote in message news:3ACBF415...@videotron.ca... > Hi again, > > This one has to be cleared out in my head. I did asked a similar > question in the past, but i wonder about the effect on this one. > > Here it goes: > > 1st) 5 player table > > 2nd) Pool left: A has 3 > B, C, D, and E all have 1 > > 3rd) Player A calls a Kine Resources Contested, no one blocks. Terms > are that B, C, D, and E lose 1 pool each. Vote is successful. > > Q1: What happen to targeted players after vote takes effect? They are all ousted. All but E gain one victory point. A also gains one victory point and six blood. > Q2: Who gets a victory points? Each Methuselah whose prey was ousted by the vote gains a victory point. > Q3: Who gets the regular 6 pools by having its prey ousted? Only the player who is not ousted without the six pool, ie player A. > Other votes have similar effect. Conservative Agitation, Anarchist > Uprising, Ancilla Empowerment,... Will these cards have to be handle > the same way? Ousting multiple players in the same action is always handled exactly the same way. See section 9 of the Sabbat War Rulebook, particularly the Exception under 9.1 Victory Points. http://www.thelasombra.com/rulebook.htm#9.1 http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/rulebook/rulebook.html#sec9_1 Carpe Noctem. Lasombra http://www.TheLasombra.com

> > 1st) 5 player table > > > > 2nd) Pool left: A has 3 > > B, C, D, and E all have 1 > > > > 3rd) Player A calls a Kine Resources Contested, no one blocks. Terms > > are that B, C, D, and E lose 1 pool each. Vote is successful. > > > > Q1: What happen to targeted players after vote takes effect? > > They are all ousted. > All but E gain one victory point. > A also gains one victory point and six blood. > > > Q2: Who gets a victory points? > > Each Methuselah whose prey was ousted by the vote gains a victory point. > > > Q3: Who gets the regular 6 pools by having its prey ousted? > > Only the player who is not ousted without the six pool, ie player A. > > > Other votes have similar effect. Conservative Agitation, Anarchist > > Uprising, Ancilla Empowerment,... Will these cards have to be handle > > the same way? > > Ousting multiple players in the same action is always handled exactly the > same way. > See section 9 of the Sabbat War Rulebook, particularly the Exception under > 9.1 Victory Points. > Well this is something new in the ruling I would guess. I asked last year that, if I ousted my prey and his at the same time, my prey would not only get his VP, but also his 6 pools. This way I wouldn't gain my VP and my 6 pools. Answer from LSJ himself (if i remember correctly). And to go further with the answer, there was something mentionned about doing it properly so that next time this won't happen again. Sorry for bothering again. grin... GP41

"GP41" <GP...@videotron.ca> a écrit dans le message news: 3ACCF5A5...@videotron.ca... > Well this is something new in the ruling I would guess. > > I asked last year that, if I ousted my prey and his at the same time, my > prey would not only get his VP, but also his 6 pools. This way I > wouldn't gain my VP and my 6 pools. Answer from LSJ himself (if i > remember correctly). And to go further with the answer, there was > something mentionned about doing it properly so that next time this > won't happen again. > > Sorry for bothering again. > > grin... > > GP41 non non, you must be wrong ! from the very beginning of the game, when a player is ousted at the same time as his prey, he gains a victory point but no blood 'cause as i said he's ousted. don't forget when you go below 1 pool you lose immediatly and no effect can give you pool again (barring life/major boon which prevents this)

GP41 wrote: > I asked last year that, if I ousted my prey and his at the same time, my > prey would not only get his VP, but also his 6 pools. This way I > wouldn't gain my VP and my 6 pools. Answer from LSJ himself (if i > remember correctly). And to go further with the answer, there was > something mentionned about doing it properly so that next time this > won't happen again. No. It's never been the case that an ousted Methuselah whose prey was ousted at the same time could somehow gain her six pool in time to save herself from being ousted. -- LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc. Links to revised rulebook, rulings, errata, and tournament rules: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/