[LSJ]New NRA, another question

I have tried lo track this down in google, and haven't found a proper clarification. With the new NRA rule, a given vamp is not able to repeat the same action card twice each turn. It also forbids to take a political action twice in a turn. Is this redundant, or a given vamp will not be able to call two separate referendums given by different cards in a turn, e.g., a parity shift and a KRC? I guess the answer is no, a vamp can only call one political action each turn, but needed to make it clear. Tom, Mad&Co

"Tom, Mad & Co" wrote: > > I have tried lo track this down in google, and haven't found a proper > clarification. > > With the new NRA rule, a given vamp is not able to repeat the same action > card twice each turn. It also forbids to take a political action twice in a > turn. Is this redundant, or a given vamp will not be able to call two > separate referendums given by different cards in a turn, e.g., a parity > shift and a KRC? The latter. > I guess the answer is no, a vamp can only call one political action each > turn, but needed to make it clear. A quote from http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/Preview_CENewRules2.html "A minion [...] cannot take a political action twice in a turn." -- LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc. Links to V:TES news, rules, cards, utilities, and tournament calendar: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/

In message <ah691a$qta$1...@nsnmrro2-gest.nuria.telefonica-data.net>, "Tom, Mad & Co" <t...@almadrava.net> writes: >With the new NRA rule, a given vamp is not able to repeat the same action >card twice each turn. It also forbids to take a political action twice in a >turn. Is this redundant, or a given vamp will not be able to call two >separate referendums given by different cards in a turn, e.g., a parity >shift and a KRC? The vampire cannot take more than one political action during the same turn, regardless of whether it's a different vote, called with a card in play, or called without using a card in play. (Like burning Archon, since the card is never in play.) -- James Coupe PGP 0x5D623D5D You don't need to hear it but I'm dried up EBD690ECD7A1FB457CA2 and sick to death of love. 13D7E668C3695D623D5D

LSJ <vte...@white-wolf.com> wrote in message news:<3D36A8B6...@white-wolf.com>... > "Tom, Mad & Co" wrote: > > > > I have tried lo track this down in google, and haven't found a proper > > clarification. > > > > With the new NRA rule, a given vamp is not able to repeat the same action > > card twice each turn. It also forbids to take a political action twice in a > > turn. Is this redundant, or a given vamp will not be able to call two > > separate referendums given by different cards in a turn, e.g., a parity > > shift and a KRC? > > The latter. > > > I guess the answer is no, a vamp can only call one political action each > > turn, but needed to make it clear. > > A quote from http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/Preview_CENewRules2.html > > "A minion [...] cannot take a political action twice in a turn." Do political actions include taking an action to call a referendum (like taking an action for a referendum to burn arnach revolt, or elysium)... I can never remember... I thought they didn't. SO could I call to burn the anarch revolt, freak drive and then call a parity shift? Or is any action that results in a referendum being called considered a political action (in which case would diablreizing be considered a political action?)... I can't find the relevant online ruling at this time... (of course I'm pretty sure you can't Delaying Tactics a vote to kill the anarch revolt...) ~SV

vermillian wrote: > > LSJ <vte...@white-wolf.com> wrote in message news:<3D36A8B6...@white-wolf.com>... > > "Tom, Mad & Co" wrote: > > > > > > I have tried lo track this down in google, and haven't found a proper > > > clarification. > > > > > > With the new NRA rule, a given vamp is not able to repeat the same action > > > card twice each turn. It also forbids to take a political action twice in a > > > turn. Is this redundant, or a given vamp will not be able to call two > > > separate referendums given by different cards in a turn, e.g., a parity > > > shift and a KRC? > > > > The latter. > > > > > I guess the answer is no, a vamp can only call one political action each > > > turn, but needed to make it clear. > > > > A quote from http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/Preview_CENewRules2.html > > > > "A minion [...] cannot take a political action twice in a turn." > > Do political actions include taking an action to call a referendum > (like taking an action for a referendum to burn arnach revolt, or > elysium)... I can never remember... I thought they didn't. SO could I Card text indicates that it is a political action. > call to burn the anarch revolt, freak drive and then call a parity > shift? Or is any action that results in a referendum being called > considered a political action (in which case would diablreizing be Any action to call a referendum is a political action. > considered a political action?)... No. > I can't find the relevant online ruling at this time... (of course I'm > pretty sure you can't Delaying Tactics a vote to kill the anarch > revolt...) You can. [ quoted text not captured ]

LSJ cites: >"A minion [...] cannot take a political action twice in a turn." Actually this could be read as "only one KRC per turn, only one Parity Shift per turn, etc." Better would be "a minion may only perform on political action a turn". Curt Adams (curt...@aol.com) "It is better to be wrong than to be vague" - Freeman Dyson

CurtAdams wrote: > > LSJ cites: > > >"A minion [...] cannot take a political action twice in a turn." > > Actually this could be read as "only one KRC per turn, only > one Parity Shift per turn, etc." Better would be "a minion Not really. > may only perform on political action a turn". That "could be" read as the minion can *only* perform political actions. :-) [ quoted text not captured ]