rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad

Erciyes Fragments + Discipline Card + Diablerie

2 messages from 2 participants · 24 September 2008
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ira...@gmail.com

Hello LSJ, If my Erciyes Fragments has a discpline card on it, then one of my vamps diablerizes and older vamp, can I give my vamp the discipline card from the Erciyes Fragments? I think the answer is no, because "giving" isn't the same thing as playing. Thanks, Ira Name: The Erciyes Fragments [Promo-20040301] Cardtype: Master Unique master. Put this card in play. Tap this card to move a library card from your prey's ash heap to this card, face down. You may look at that card at any time. You may play the card from the Fragments as if playing it from your hand (requirements and cost, if any, apply as normal). When that card is burned, remove it from the game instead. Only 1 card can be on this card at a time. Any vampire with a capacity above 4 can steal the Fragments (and any card on it) for his or her controller as a (D) action. Rulebook http://white-wolf.com/vtes/rulebook/ 6.5.5. Diablerie Diablerie is the act of sending another vampire to Final Death by drinking his blood. Only ready vampires can commit diablerie. Vampires marked as Blood Cursed cannot commit diablerie. The vampire committing diablerie is called the diablerist. Diablerie is resolved as follows: 1. All blood on the victim is moved to the diablerist. Blood in excess of his capacity drains off as normal. 2. The diablerist may take any equipment on the victim. 3. The victim is burned (sent to his owner's ash heap). Any cards and counters on him are also burned. 4. If the victim was older (had a higher capacity) than the diablerist, the diablerist can be given a Discipline. His controller may go through her library, ash heap and hand to get a master Discipline card to put on the diablerist and then reshuffle her library or draw back up to her hand size as necessary. This increases the diablerist's capacity by 1, but does not automatically give the diablerist a blood to fill that new capacity. 5. If the victim was Red List, the diablerist may receive trophies (see section 11). The steps of diablerie are treated as a single unit. No effects can be used to interrupt the diablerie; effects may be played either before or after, as appropriate. After diablerie, a blood hunt may be called on the diablerist.

LSJ

ira...@gmail.com wrote: > Hello LSJ, > > If my Erciyes Fragments has a discpline card on it, then one of my > vamps diablerizes and older vamp, can I give my vamp the discipline > card from the Erciyes Fragments? I think the answer is no, because > "giving" isn't the same thing as playing. Correct.