rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad

Questions: Frozen Object, randomness

2 messages from 2 participants · 27 December 2002
original thread on Google Groups

Brian

1.) Frozen Object states that a Methuselah can only have one in play. I think I remember a ruling that says you can't attempt something you can't do, so you couldn't play a Frozen Object with another one in play, but does that sentence do anything OTHER than prevent you from playing another copy? For example, I control a Frozen Object on Ian Forestal. My prey has a Frozen Object on his Synesios. When I use Form of Corruption to gain control of Synesios, I get all the minion cards attached to him...including Frozen Object. Both say I can't have two in play, neither one tells me what to do about it when it happens. What happens? 2.) Recalling a tournament from months ago, I suggested to Jason (who was my prey in that game) that, since neither of us really had a chance to win alone, but he had a Succubus Club, we should have just pooled our resources and given them all to the winner of a coin flip. Vince spoke up and said that that was illegal by a recent LSJ ruling on the newsgroup. I haven't been on the newsgroup recently, so I searched for "Coin Flip" and not much came up. Is it truly illegal? If so, why? Thanks for your time, -- Brian

LSJ

Brian wrote: > > 1.) Frozen Object states that a Methuselah can only have one in play. > I think I remember a ruling that says you can't attempt something you > can't do, so you couldn't play a Frozen Object with another one in > play, but does that sentence do anything OTHER than prevent you from > playing another copy? For example, I control a Frozen Object on Ian > Forestal. My prey has a Frozen Object on his Synesios. When I use > Form of Corruption to gain control of Synesios, I get all the minion > cards attached to him...including Frozen Object. Both say I can't > have two in play, neither one tells me what to do about it when it > happens. What happens? The newly-acquired copy is burned. > 2.) Recalling a tournament from months ago, I suggested to Jason (who > was my prey in that game) that, since neither of us really had a > chance to win alone, but he had a Succubus Club, we should have just > pooled our resources and given them all to the winner of a coin flip. > Vince spoke up and said that that was illegal by a recent LSJ ruling > on the newsgroup. I haven't been on the newsgroup recently, so I > searched for "Coin Flip" and not much came up. Is it truly illegal? > If so, why? See section 164 of the Judges' Guide. http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/veknJudgesGuide.html -- LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc. Links to V:TES news, rules, cards, utilities, and tournament calendar: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/