On Jun 18, 11:15 am, Joscha <joscha.du...@gmx.de> wrote:
> On 12 Jun., 14:25, LSJ <vtes...@white-wolf.com> wrote:
>
> > nikol...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > > Can you "go to torpor" even though you are there already?
>
> > Yes.http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad/msg/a261......
>
> > > Its the last bit I am curious about. Does it mean that a minion must
> > > go to torpor or if he is there already, he is burned?
> > > Or is it merely to indicate that it will burn allies?
>
> > The latter (or a vampire's controller can choose to burn him, if desired).
>
> What about a clotted vampire with a Fame on her? If the controller
> decides in the untap to not burn her does he has to pay the three pool
> for her entering torpor?
> I'd say yes, as the vampire enters torpor regardless where she was
> before and so the condition of Fame is fulfilled.
You don't burn the three pool again.
The parallel would be Vampiric Disease. "When an afflicted vampire
untaps, he or she burns a blood"
A Disease'd vampire does not burn a blood during the untap phase
unless they actually change from tapped to untapped - even though all
your untapped cards technically untap at the start of your turn.
Similarly, Fame triggers on actually going from ready to torpor, not
simply being subjected to a 'go to torpor' effect (while already in
torpor.)
The vampire isn't entering torpor - they were already there, so they
aren't going anywhere (and Fame doesn't trigger as a result.)
-John Flournoy