I'm playing a Trophy Hunter deck in a Gehenna Hell JOL Game.
Right now there are many Gehenna Events in play, including Blood
Weakens. Thetmes has just burned a Red List minion in combat, after
playing three cards so my hand size is at 4.
I intend to search my library for a Trophy. Do I do so before or after
I redraw my hand size? (I have also seen the top card of my library due
to Veil of Darkness, and I kind of want it).
I'm guessing that I can't however, since the action hasn't fully
concluded (Trophy hunt trigger is still a part of combat in this case,
right? ).
Now suppose this situation occured during a diablerie action and
several stealth cards/disciplines were played to get past some
intercept. Is it any different because the action is completed when the
diablerie is successful?
I know an action is successful when unblocked, but not finished until
all associated combats are concluded as well. Does this mean timing
rules associated with collecting Trophies are different when earned
combat or as (D) actions?
Thanks.
Jeff
brace...@gmail.com wrote:
> I'm playing a Trophy Hunter deck in a Gehenna Hell JOL Game.
>
> Right now there are many Gehenna Events in play, including Blood
> Weakens. Thetmes has just burned a Red List minion in combat, after
> playing three cards so my hand size is at 4.
>
> I intend to search my library for a Trophy. Do I do so before or after
> I redraw my hand size? (I have also seen the top card of my library due
> to Veil of Darkness, and I kind of want it).
>
> I'm guessing that I can't however, since the action hasn't fully
> concluded (Trophy hunt trigger is still a part of combat in this case,
> right? ).
It's a part of diablerie, correct. [6.5.5.5]
> Now suppose this situation occured during a diablerie action and
> several stealth cards/disciplines were played to get past some
> intercept. Is it any different because the action is completed when the
> diablerie is successful?
No. The diablerie isn't successful until it is resolved (including the
6.5.5.5 step).
> I know an action is successful when unblocked, but not finished until
> all associated combats are concluded as well. Does this mean timing
> rules associated with collecting Trophies are different when earned
> combat or as (D) actions?
No. They are the same -- the gaining of the trophy is part of the
diablerie.
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Now suppose the action was Sacrificial Lamb. I'd assume based on this
response that the Trophy collection resolves as part of the torpor
burnage, not after the action resolves (so in a sense Trophy collection
is "atomic" with any Red List combat/(D) action burn).
Jeff
jeffk...@pacbell.net wrote:
> Now suppose the action was Sacrificial Lamb. I'd assume based on this
> response that the Trophy collection resolves as part of the torpor
> burnage, not after the action resolves (so in a sense Trophy collection
> is "atomic" with any Red List combat/(D) action burn).
It's not "atomic" with the resolution of Sacrificial Lamb, no.
It would occur after the action is resolved.
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I'm not exactly sure what either of you mean here. :-) But if I understand
correctly, if you Sacrificial Lamb a Red Listed vampire and want to collect
a Trophy for it, you would do so during the action but after resolving the
effect of Sacrificial Lamb (ie burning the vampire). Much like a diablerie
action, where you'd search for the Trophy as part of the diablerie, and then
you would Freak Drive (if you were going to) after the diablerie +
Trophy-finding but before the end of the action: you would search for the
Trophy after resolving the burning of the vampire by Sacrificial Lamb, but
before you would Freak Drive (though perhaps you could do these two in
either order?), still within the action.
Josh
looking for freedom