rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad

Mask of 1k faces question (easy one, this).

5 messages from 3 participants · 02 July 2010
original thread on Google Groups

BeAst

relevant texts and rulings: Mask of a Thousand Faces Action Modifier obf: Only usable by a ready, untapped vampire other than the acting minion who is capable of performing the action. Not usable if any action modifiers or other effects have been used that could not have been used if this vampire were the acting vampire. Untap the acting minion and tap this vampire instead. The action continues with this vampire as the acting minion. OBF: As above, with +1 stealth. Mask cannot be used to mask an action if the Masking vampire is not capable of taking that action, nor if any action modifiers, reactions, or other effects (including inherent stealth) have been played on this action that could not have been played/used if the Masking vampire were the acting minion. (Not counting blood that has already been spent.) [RTR 19980623] [RTR 20030519] [RTR 20041202] Blind Spot Master. Choose a vampire you control and an ally or younger vampire controlled by your prey. While the first chosen vampire is acting this turn, the other chosen minion cannot block or play reaction cards. --------------------------------- Meth A has 2 vampires, Meth B is his prey with 1 vamp, Meth C is A's predator, also with 1 vamp. In A's master phase they select one of their vampires for the effects of Blind Spot, choosing B's only vamp. B's vamp now cannot declare a block attempt, nor play reaction cards. A's first vampire takes an undirected action. C declares their vamp attempts to block. A's second vamp plays mask of 1k faces to take over the action... *interrupt* I believe this is not legal, since the "effect" of Blind Spot to deny B's vamp a block is not applicable to the second of A's vampires, and B (in effect) has been denied a block window against a vampire they could have declared a block attempt against.

BeAst

[ quoted text not captured ] If the order of acting had been changed (so A's non- Blind Spotted vamp started the undirected action) and B's vamp had declared a block attempt, if A's Blind Spotted vamp then played Mask of 1k faces to take over the action, would B's block attempt simply fizzle?

floppyzedolfin

On Jul 2, 11:46 am, BeAst <john.b...@zeninternet.co.uk> wrote: > Meth A has 2 vampires, Meth B is his prey with 1 vamp, Meth C is A's > predator, also with 1 vamp. > > In A's master phase they select one of their vampires for the effects > of Blind Spot, choosing B's only vamp. B's vamp now cannot declare a > block attempt, nor play reaction cards. A's first vampire takes an > undirected action. C declares their vamp attempts to block. A's second > vamp plays mask of 1k faces to take over the action... > > *interrupt* > > I believe this is not legal, since the "effect" of Blind Spot to deny > B's vamp a block is not applicable to the second of A's vampires, and > B (in effect) has been denied a block window against a vampire they > could have declared a block attempt against. So A plays Blind Spot, and chooses B's vampire and, say, vampire A1 she controls. A1 declares an action. Since B can't block, she declines any block attempt. C can now attempt to block, which she does - there's no restriction to block for C's minions. A2 can play Mask - if all the requirements of Mask are met. The fact that B declined the block doesn't matter - unless something the Mask coulnd't carry was used to have B cancel a block attempt. See also Mask of a Thousand Faces + Toreador Grand Ball. http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad/msg/bf113e534bce5b84

floppyzedolfin

[ quoted text not captured ] I suppose it'd fail immediately (not sure block attempts can "fizzle").

LSJ

[ quoted text not captured ] No. In this case, an effect has been applied ("B's vamp attempts to block") that could not have been applied had A's Blind-Spotted vampire been acting, so A's Blind-Spotted vampire cannot play Mask.