Question(LSJ)

Hello i wanted to ask a question. If one plays Force of will and then red herring (superior) is the acting minion untapped ( cause red hering says untap the actig minion ? ) I would say no because the acting minion was tapped as he started the action. Thanks in advance Carsten

In message <3B2A0300...@crunch.ikp.physik.tu-darmstadt.de>, Carsten Isselhorst <car...@crunch.ikp.physik.tu-darmstadt.de> writes >Hello i wanted to ask a question. If one plays Force of will and then >red herring (superior) is the acting minion untapped ( cause red hering >says untap the actig minion ? ) The card text very explicitly tells you to untap the actor. So you untap them. -- James Coupe PGP Key: 0x5D623D5D "You reinstall Dial-Up Networking. The Elf screams and becomes EBD690ECD7A1F an icon. *** CONGRATULATIONS! *** You completed the BT Internet B457CA213D7E6 Helpdesk training course in 15 out of a possible 9000 moves." 68C3695D623D5D

James Coupe wrote: > > In message <3B2A0300...@crunch.ikp.physik.tu-darmstadt.de>, > Carsten Isselhorst <car...@crunch.ikp.physik.tu-darmstadt.de> writes > >Hello i wanted to ask a question. If one plays Force of will and then > >red herring (superior) is the acting minion untapped ( cause red hering > >says untap the actig minion ? ) > > The card text very explicitly tells you to untap the actor. > > So you untap them. but e.g. change of target was erratad to not untap the blocker if he was already tapped. So to make it in the same "spirit" i would expect red herring to be ruled the same way ! carsten

James Coupe <ja...@zephyr.org.uk> wrote in message news:<5txumzEP...@obeah.demon.co.uk>... > In message <3B2A0300...@crunch.ikp.physik.tu-darmstadt.de>, > Carsten Isselhorst <car...@crunch.ikp.physik.tu-darmstadt.de> writes > >Hello i wanted to ask a question. If one plays Force of will and then > >red herring (superior) is the acting minion untapped ( cause red hering > >says untap the actig minion ? ) > > The card text very explicitly tells you to untap the actor. > > So you untap them. Correct. -- LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc. Links to revised rulebook, rulings, errata, and tournament rules: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/

In message <3B2A312B...@crunch.ikp.physik.tu-darmstadt.de>, Carsten Isselhorst <car...@crunch.ikp.physik.tu-darmstadt.de> writes >> The card text very explicitly tells you to untap the actor. >> >> So you untap them. > but e.g. change of target was erratad to not untap the blocker if he >was already tapped. It was. However, by current card text, you untap them. LSJ may want to pass this via the Rules Team but it seems: a) a minor matter one way or the other b) bad form to errata something in a set which is partly designed to eliminate errata (e.g. current text on Soul Stealing etc.) [ quoted text not captured ]

On Fri, 15 Jun 2001 20:02:39 +0100, James Coupe <ja...@zephyr.org.uk> wrote: >In message <3B2A312B...@crunch.ikp.physik.tu-darmstadt.de>, >Carsten Isselhorst <car...@crunch.ikp.physik.tu-darmstadt.de> writes >>> The card text very explicitly tells you to untap the actor. >>> >>> So you untap them. >> but e.g. change of target was erratad to not untap the blocker if he >>was already tapped. > >It was. And Red Herring's text matches: "untap the acting minion, and do not tap the blocker." If the blocker was already tapped, he stays tapped. I see no inconsistency with Change of Target here. In fact, the cards look almost identical, except that the superior of Red Herring is very very cool. >However, by current card text, you untap them. You untap the ACTING minion, yes. For both cards. -- Derek