Sudden Reversal Question

If you had Anson and Parthenon in play could you use 3 Sudden Reversals out-of-turn? Mike

myk...@aol.com (MykBuc) writes: >If you had Anson and Parthenon in play could you use 3 Sudden Reversals >out-of-turn? No. The rules explicitly limit you to one M-OoT per round of play. -- L. Scott Johnson (sjoh...@math.sc.edu) | He who laughs last http://www.math.sc.edu/cgi-bin/sjohnson/home | thinks slowest Graphics Specialist and V:tES Rulemonger. |

MykBuc wrote: > > If you had Anson and Parthenon in play could you use 3 Sudden Reversals > out-of-turn? > > Mike The rules only allow a player to play one out-of-turn master each turn no matter how many master phase actions that player has at his/her disposal. After playing your one OOT Master, you would still be able to take 2 other master phase actions during your next master phase. Robert -- ...................................................................... :The opinions expressed here are strictly my own delusional ramblings: :and do not reflect the opinions of The Walt Disney Company. : : : :Robert Goudie robert...@studio.disney.com: :LA Tourny Info -> http://www.cs.ucr.edu/~ezix/other/rg/vtourn_1.html: :....................................................................: :Da pony run, he jump he pitch. He t'row my master in da ditch. : :He died and da jury wondered why. Da verdict was the blue tail fly.: :....................................................................:

On 12 Feb 1997, L. Scott Johnson wrote: > myk...@aol.com (MykBuc) writes: > >If you had Anson and Parthenon in play could you use 3 Sudden Reversals > >out-of-turn? > No. The rules explicitly limit you to one M-OoT per round of play. Just to clarify, the reasoning behind this rule is that Anson and the Parthenon might not actually be available for the extra cards they would have allowed you when your next master phase rolls around... @#$ The Corrupter $#@ @#$ Adrian Lee Sullivan $#@ Truth is as @#$ Game Theory - Coffee - Opinion - Hedonism $#@ subjective as @#$ <http://upl.cs.wisc.edu/~adrian/jyhad> $#@ Reality ... GAT/CS/WS C(+++) USX+ P++ N++ PS++@ PE@ b++(+++) X+++ R+++* r+ z++**?

myk...@aol.com (MykBuc) wrote: >If you had Anson and Parthenon in play could you use 3 Sudden Reversals >out-of-turn? > >Mike As far as I can tell, No! The Partheon states that you can tap DURING YOUR MASTER PHASE to get an extra master phase action. This excludes using it out of turn.

[ quoted text not captured ] Just to be clear, you can only ever play one OOT master per turn (around the table). Even if you have Anson, you don't get another chance until it's been your turn again. James -- James Hamblin je...@cornell.edu --------------------------------------------------- "Well, Mulder didn't say that it _was_ Alex Trebek, just someone who looked extremely like him." -- Dana Scully, X-Files: "Jose Chung's _From Outer Space_"

James Hamblin <je...@cornell.edu> wrote: >David J. McCarty wrote: >> >> myk...@aol.com (MykBuc) wrote: >> >If you had Anson and Parthenon in play could you use 3 Sudden Reversals >> >out-of-turn? >> > >> >Mike >> >> As far as I can tell, No! The Partheon states that you can tap DURING >> YOUR MASTER PHASE to get an extra master phase action. This excludes >> using it out of turn. >Just to be clear, you can only ever play one OOT master per turn (around >the table). Even if you have Anson, you don't get another chance until >it's been your turn again. Hmmmm. Are you positive about this? Not to be contradictory (even though the Design Team is), I have to wonder about this. There used to be a ruling that a Master-Out-Of-Turn substituted for your entire Master Phase, but the tournament this weekend was using the OOT as a Master action. This allowed you an OOT and a Master if you had Anson, Parthenon or Rumors in effect. So, if you could OOT and Master in the same turn, why not 2 OOT's? Mind you, I'd hate to see this, but it does seem logical. As if the rulings and errata were logical ;) Darby *** Disclaimer: These are the opinions of the poster not Amgen Inc.***

dke...@amgen.com (Darby Keeney) writes: >James Hamblin <je...@cornell.edu> wrote: >>Just to be clear, you can only ever play one OOT master per turn (around >>the table). Even if you have Anson, you don't get another chance until >>it's been your turn again. >Hmmmm. Are you positive about this? Not to be contradictory (even >though the Design Team is), I have to wonder about this. (3.2.1) Once you've played an out-of-turn master card, you can't play another one until after your next turn. >There used to be a ruling that a Master-Out-Of-Turn substituted for That wasn't a ruling - that was in the rules for Jyhad. >your entire Master Phase, but the tournament this weekend was using >the OOT as a Master action. This allowed you an OOT and a Master if >you had Anson, Parthenon or Rumors in effect. When the new rules (VtES) came out, they added the concept of Master Phase Action. Normally, you get only one. They also added the rule that you can only play one MOoT between your turns. -- L. Scott Johnson (sjoh...@math.sc.edu) | Washington, DC: http://www.math.sc.edu/cgi-bin/sjohnson/home | America's work-free Graphics Specialist and V:tES Rulemonger. | drug place

Darby Keeney (dke...@amgen.com) wrote: : : There used to be a ruling that a Master-Out-Of-Turn substituted for : your entire Master Phase, but the tournament this weekend was using : the OOT as a Master action. This allowed you an OOT and a Master if : you had Anson, Parthenon or Rumors in effect. : : So, if you could OOT and Master in the same turn, why not 2 OOT's? : Mind you, I'd hate to see this, but it does seem logical. As if the : rulings and errata were logical ;) The reasoning, as I understand it, is that these cards which allow extra master "actions" may no longer be under your control (burned, stolen, whatever) by the time it becomes your turn again. Therefore, you are only allowed to use the one master action that you are guaranteed "before" it's your turn. -spongy