[LSJ] Master Discipline cards and vamps in torpor

Is it possible to play a master discipline card on a vampire in torpor? Thanks! -< Johann Lionheart >- -< Johann Lionheart >- http://www.johannsdomain.com

-< Johann Lionheart >- wrote: > Is it possible to play a master discipline card on a vampire in > torpor? Yes. -- LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc. Links to V:TES news, rules, cards, utilities, and tournament calendar: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/

What about playing it on an uncontrolled vamp? The card does not state that it must be played on a controlled vamp: Celerity [Jyhad:C, VTES:C, Sabbat:C, SW:C/PB, FN:PA, CE:C, Anarchs:PAG] Cardtype: Master Capacity: +1 Master: Discipline. Put this card on a vampire. This vampire gains 1 level of Celerity [cel]. Capacity increases by 1: the vampire is one generation older. Cannot be placed on a vampire with superior Celerity. I could not find where it sates that on the Rulebook after a player asked me... Daniel LSJ <vte...@white-wolf.com> wrote in message news:<3EF899D...@white-wolf.com>... [ quoted text not captured ]

On 24 Jun 2003 13:54:24 -0700, daniel....@med.ge.com (Dragos Brazil) wrote: >What about playing [discipline masters] on an uncontrolled vamp? No, you cannot play discipline masters on uncontrolled vampires. . You cannot target an uncontrolled card without specific card text. See 1.6.1.5 of the online rulebook. http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/rulebook/ Targets. If a card is played on another card, or selects or chooses or otherwise targets another card, the target card must be in play (i.e., controlled). Vampires in the torpor region are eligible targets by default, but vampires in the uncontrolled region and contested cards are not. Carpe noctem. Lasombra http://www.TheLasombra.com