If one of my vampires has, say, Society of Leopold, Vampiric Disease, and
Charnas the Imp on it, do I get to decide in which order the effects
occur? For example, if it has 1 blood can I: gain 1 from a hunting ground,
pay 1 to satisfy Leopold, take 1 damage from Charnas, and then burn the
disease counter since it's at 0 blood?
If a vampire cancels a political action with Telepathic Vote Counting, it's
still prohibited from attempting a second political action that turn by "no
repeat actions", correct?
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Justin Fang (jus...@ugcs.caltech.edu)
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Justin Fang wrote:
>
> If one of my vampires has, say, Society of Leopold, Vampiric Disease, and
> Charnas the Imp on it, do I get to decide in which order the effects
> occur? For example, if it has 1 blood can I: gain 1 from a hunting ground,
> pay 1 to satisfy Leopold, take 1 damage from Charnas, and then burn the
> disease counter since it's at 0 blood?
You can order the untap events in any way, with the stipulation that
untapping all of your cards is the first thing that you do.
So, you untap first. When you untap, Charnas deals one damage and you
have to pay one blood for the disease or lose the disease counter.
You deal with these side effects of untapping however you like:
You can heal the damage and lose the disease counter, or you can
burn the blood for the disease and go to torpor from the damage.
Assuming the former, your vampire is now at zero blood.
You can order the remaining "during untap phase" events in any
way you like.
If you deal with Society first, the vampire will be burned.
If you use the HG to put a blood on the vampire, then you can burn
that blood to satisfy Society.
> If a vampire cancels a political action with Telepathic Vote Counting, it's
> still prohibited from attempting a second political action that turn by "no
> repeat actions", correct?
That was my ruling, so yes (*). I'm still waiting on confirmation/review
by the Rules Team, however.
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L. Scott Johnson (vte...@regency.wizards.com)
Official VtES Net.Rep for Wizards of the Coast.
(*) - Subject to review by Rules Team
LSJ (VtES Rep) wrote:
> > If a vampire cancels a political action with Telepathic Vote Counting, it's
> > still prohibited from attempting a second political action that turn by "no
> > repeat actions", correct?
>
> That was my ruling, so yes (*). I'm still waiting on confirmation/review
> by the Rules Team, however.
Oops, looks like I should've reviewed a little more myself.
The rules team *did* review that ruling, and ruled the other
way on it (VTES rulings July 97):
7) Delaying Tactics doesn't pretend that the political action was never
taken; it simply cancels the voting process. Thus, it does not allow the
acting minion to overcome the "no repeated action" rule, assuming that rule
is in effect.
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i wonder if i'm going to make a good point or just stuff my foot in my
mouth big time...oh well, here goes...
LSJ (VtES Rep) wrote:
> You can order the remaining "during untap phase" events in any
> way you like.
>
> If you deal with Society first, the vampire will be burned.
>
> If you use the HG to put a blood on the vampire, then you can burn
> that blood to satisfy Society.
i thought, however, that the society was "burn one blood to untap or be
burned", so that..umm...if it doesn't have a blood, or is prevented from
untapping (mind numb, mummy's tounge, etc,) then it would burn...
a pre-requisite to untapping, as opposed to an untapping side effect or
a "during untap" effect..
alas, i'm working off a vague memory of the jyhad, not vtes, text...i
think..hang on...umm...
what a waste of bandwidth..sorry..
salem.....
salem christ.... wrote:
> i thought, however, that the society was "burn one blood to untap or be
> burned", so that..umm...if it doesn't have a blood, or is prevented from
> untapping (mind numb, mummy's tounge, etc,) then it would burn...
> a pre-requisite to untapping, as opposed to an untapping side effect or
> a "during untap" effect..
Card text:
Society of Leopold
Unique Master
Put this card on a vampire. During his or her controller's untap phase,
the vampire with this card either burns 1 blood or is burned (the
controller's choice). A vampire with this card can put it on any other
vampire as a +1 stealth (D) action.
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Justin Fang wrote:
>
> In article <33F1AD...@regency.wizards.com>,> LSJ (VtES Rep) <vte...@regency.wizards.com> wrote:
> >LSJ (VtES Rep) wrote:
> >>>If a vampire cancels a political action with Telepathic Vote Counting, it's
> >>>still prohibited from attempting a second political action that turn by "no
> >>>repeat actions", correct?
>
> >> That was my ruling, so yes (*). I'm still waiting on confirmation/review
> >> by the Rules Team, however.
>
> >Oops, looks like I should've reviewed a little more myself.
> >The rules team *did* review that ruling, and ruled the other
> >way on it (VTES rulings July 97):
>> Um, doesn't the following ruling *confirm* what you said above (that TVC
> doesn't let you get around "no repeat actions".)>
> > 7) Delaying Tactics doesn't pretend that the political action was never
> > taken; it simply cancels the voting process. Thus, it does not allow the
> > acting minion to overcome the "no repeated action" rule, assuming that rule
> > is in effect.
(Groan). Yes. Still suffering from sleep-deprivation from Gen Con, I guess.
The RT supports my original answer, which was "Yes".
Sorry for the confusion.
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In article <33F1AD...@regency.wizards.com>,
LSJ (VtES Rep) <vte...@regency.wizards.com> wrote:
>LSJ (VtES Rep) wrote:>>>If a vampire cancels a political action with Telepathic Vote Counting, it's
>>>still prohibited from attempting a second political action that turn by "no
>>>repeat actions", correct?>> That was my ruling, so yes (*). I'm still waiting on confirmation/review
>> by the Rules Team, however.>Oops, looks like I should've reviewed a little more myself.
>The rules team *did* review that ruling, and ruled the other
>way on it (VTES rulings July 97):
Um, doesn't the following ruling *confirm* what you said above (that TVC
doesn't let you get around "no repeat actions".)
> 7) Delaying Tactics doesn't pretend that the political action was never
> taken; it simply cancels the voting process. Thus, it does not allow the
> acting minion to overcome the "no repeated action" rule, assuming that rule
> is in effect.
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