rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad

giving blood to younger vamps

8 messages from 8 participants · 28 March 1997 – 03 April 1997
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Ma...@worldcom.com

I am playing with 3 other players with Tremere, Toreador, and Ventrue decks. They all have cards that allow them to give blood to a younger vamp and therefore they end up getting more vamps out and kicking my butt. My deck is comprised of only Nosferatu. Is there a card that I can use that is Nos? I haven't found one, but I have only just started collecting. Any help? Thanks! Matt

L. Scott Johnson

[ quoted text not captured ] Nikolaus Vermeulen (from the Dark Sovereigns expansion) can move his own blood to any uncontrolled Nos, not just younger ones, and its doesn't require an action from him (but it's only one blood per turn). Also, you can slow this process down using Memories Fading Glimpse (Obfuscate, moves a vampire from your Prey's incative region to her crypt). Or, you can block their actions (the Toreador card, Enhanced Senses is at zero stealth an is easy to block, otherwise you need a few Raven Spies and Sport Bikes or other means of getting intercept). -- L. Scott Johnson (vte...@regency.wizards.com) Official VtES Net.Rep for Wizards of the Coast. (*) - Subject to review by Rules Team

Michael Kelly

Ma...@worldcom.com wrote: > > I am playing with 3 other players with Tremere, Toreador, and Ventrue decks. > They all have cards that allow them to give blood to a younger vamp and > therefore > they end up getting more vamps out and kicking my butt. > > My deck is comprised of only Nosferatu. Is there a card that I can use that > is > Nos? I haven't found one, but I have only just started collecting. > > Any help? > > Thanks! > > Matt You can speed up your influence by using : Information Highway, Tomb of Ramses III, Dreams of the Sphinx, Effective Management (if you are playing weenies), Kindred Intellegence (again if you are playing weenies), The Fourth Tradition: Accounting (if you can bring out a Prince), The Embrace (instant weenie) The Third Traditon: Progeny (just mix and pour) Bring out Nikolaus Vermuelen (He's a Prince and gives a free xfer to your uncontrolled!) Unfortunately half of these are rare and the rest are uncommon. My suggestion is pack 3 or 4 Nikolaus Vermuelen in your crypt and use the Fourth Tradition, Embrace, and Third Tradition. Pack a bunch of disciplines so that you can beef up Nik and give skills to the weenies. You can even take advantage of Niks fortitude and Fortitude skill cards to improve the combat ability of your deck. Use all of your Tombs and particularly Dreams (a very flexible card).

Boon Sian Chang

Ma...@worldcom.com wrote: : I am playing with 3 other players with Tremere, Toreador, and Ventrue decks. : They all have cards that allow them to give blood to a younger vamp and : therefore : they end up getting more vamps out and kicking my butt. I find Minion TAP is a great card for getting blood back into your pool, and bringing out more vampires. And it's a clanless Master Card, so anyone can use it.

PDB6

Matt wrote: "My deck is comprised of only Nosferatu. Is there a card that I can use that is Nos? I haven't found one, but I have only just started collecting." Well there is nothing that is specifically Nosferatu that does this sort of thing, but along with the various things that people have pointed out above, there is 4th Tradition-Accounting that does the exact same thing a Govern the Unaligned, namely add 3 Blood to a younger uncontrolled vampire, but instead of needing Dominate, you need to be a Prince. The Nosferatu have a bunch of pretty good Princes (like Selma or Nikolaus Verboten...) who can use this card to great effect. I suspect that they are uncommon, and thus are not that hard to get, and you can buy them real cheap off the trading-cards.marketplace list (like 3/buck). Try Mark Korshavin's ads. Peter D Bakija PD...@aol.com "In America, first you get the Sugar, then you get the Power, then you get the Women." -Homer

James Hamblin

On a related note, you might want to consider using Anti-Nosferatu, who have an Art Museum-like card from Sabbat (the name escapes me right now). The Anti's have the same abilities as the regular Nosferatu, and, depending on how you're using them, a lot of the vamps have good disciplines. For example Agatha (4 POT obf), Nigel (5 POT ANI obf), and Olivia (5 POT OBF). Good luck. James -- James E. Hamblin je...@cornell.edu "There is a greater darkness than the one we fight. It is the darkness of the soul that has lost its way. ... Greater than the death of flesh is the death of hope, the death of dreams. Against this peril we can never surrender." -- G'Kar, Babylon 5: "Z'ha'dum"

PPI

Ma...@worldcom.com wrote > I am playing with 3 other players with Tremere, Toreador, and Ventrue decks. > They all have cards that allow them to give blood to a younger vamp and > therefore > they end up getting more vamps out and kicking my butt. > > My deck is comprised of only Nosferatu. Is there a card that I can use that > is > Nos? I haven't found one, but I have only just started collecting. Hey, since I'm the one with the Toreador deck he's playing against, don't give him any help! :) To clarify, I'm using Enchant Kindred, and the Tremere and Ventrue are using Govern the unaligned. (Presence and Fortitude(?) cards) --Amy ahem...@propoint.com

xcdc...@aol.com

In article <5hgpu3$a...@merengue.worldcom.com>, Ma...@worldcom.com writes: > >I am playing with 3 other players with Tremere, Toreador, and Ventrue decks. >They all have cards that allow them to give blood to a younger vamp and >therefore >they end up getting more vamps out and kicking my butt. > >My deck is comprised of only Nosferatu. Is there a card that I can use that >is >Nos? I haven't found one, but I have only just started collecting. > >Any help? > > One other card that slows them down is Brainwash, a clanless master card that can be burned as a directed action. If you have Chimerstry or Ravnos there's Trick of Danya, expensive but fun. Lastly, the much maligned Tomb of Ramses III would help you. Though at that point we digress. chance Chance "If you think you can, you're right. If you think you can't, you're right!" -- Henry Ford