LSJ quick question

Hi there ! so now it's illegal to contest my own cards. I hve 2 vamps ready : Anson and Anneke with the soul gem on her. question 1 : Anneke is burned in combat. soul gem triggers. next vamp in the crypt is anson. He is put in play... How is the contest handled ?? Question 2 : I put Vast wealth on Anson. he takes the aciton to equip with ... the soul gem. What happens ? Question 3 : I'm contesting the soul gem with a vamp controlled by another methuselah. I play "Temptation of Greater Power" thanks to Anneke. I gain control of that vamp. How is the contest handled ? I may think if you contest by accident, you'll use the old rules... am i wrong ? reyda

In message <9g37mr$4bk$1...@hadron.noos.net>, Reyda <re...@noos.fr> writes >I hve 2 vamps ready : Anson and Anneke with the soul gem on her. >question 1 : Anneke is burned in combat. soul gem triggers. next vamp in the >crypt is anson. He is put in play... How is the contest handled ?? As per his post, the card that would cause the contest (the new one) is burned. "simply burn the incoming copy of the unique card." >Question 2 : I put Vast wealth on Anson. he takes the aciton to equip with >... the soul gem. What happens ? Same again. >Question 3 : I'm contesting the soul gem with a vamp controlled by another >methuselah. I play "Temptation of Greater Power" thanks to Anneke. I gain >control of that vamp. How is the contest handled ? From "simply burn the incoming copy of the unique card" I would be tempted to rule that you burn the copy on the vampire you just stole. LSJ may want to review this for consistency. -- James Coupe PGP Key: 0x5D623D5D "You reinstall Dial-Up Networking. The Elf screams and becomes EBD690ECD7A1F an icon. *** CONGRATULATIONS! *** You completed the BT Internet B457CA213D7E6 Helpdesk training course in 15 out of a possible 9000 moves." 68C3695D623D5D

On Mon, 11 Jun 2001, James Coupe wrote: > In message <9g37mr$4bk$1...@hadron.noos.net>, Reyda <re...@noos.fr> writes > >I hve 2 vamps ready : Anson and Anneke with the soul gem on her. > >question 1 : Anneke is burned in combat. soul gem triggers. next vamp in the > >crypt is anson. He is put in play... How is the contest handled ?? > > As per his post, the card that would cause the contest (the new one) is > burned. > > "simply burn the incoming copy of the unique card." > Would this re-trigger Soul Gem's effect text? Marc Gabriele

In message <Pine.SUN.3.96L.101061...@alycia.dementia.org>, Marc Gabriele <goo...@dementia.org> writes >> >I hve 2 vamps ready : Anson and Anneke with the soul gem on her. >> >question 1 : Anneke is burned in combat. soul gem triggers. next vamp in the >> >crypt is anson. He is put in play... How is the contest handled ?? >> >> As per his post, the card that would cause the contest (the new one) is >> burned. >> >> "simply burn the incoming copy of the unique card." >> > Would this re-trigger Soul Gem's effect text? Since the incoming copy of the unique card is the Soul Gem, by implication I meant "burn the new copy of the Soul Gem". Sorry for not being clearer. Since the Gem is burned, not the bearer, it wouldn't trigger. [ quoted text not captured ]

In article <9g37mr$4bk$1...@hadron.noos.net>, Reyda <re...@noos.fr> wrote: >Hi there ! >so now it's illegal to contest my own cards. >I hve 2 vamps ready : Anson and Anneke with the soul gem on her. >question 1 : Anneke is burned in combat. soul gem triggers. next vamp in the >crypt is anson. He is put in play... How is the contest handled ?? The incoming Anson is burned. It's unclear if this re-triggers the Gem, but I think it does. >Question 2 : I put Vast wealth on Anson. he takes the aciton to equip with >... the soul gem. What happens ? As with finding a Sport Bike when you already have one, the new Gem is burned and you've wasted an action. >Question 3 : I'm contesting the soul gem with a vamp controlled by another >methuselah. I play "Temptation of Greater Power" thanks to Anneke. I gain >control of that vamp. How is the contest handled ? Hm. I think the incoming Gem is burned, but given that it's already contested, I'm not sure. I'll let LSJ handle that one. >I may think if you contest by accident, you'll use the old rules... am i >wrong ? Yep. The rule says if you contest with yourself through some tricky control transfer mechanism or suchlike, the incoming copy is burned. gomi -- Yes, I believe but I'd rather not pray What I believe in I'd rather not say, baby

In message <segb6rGH...@obeah.demon.co.uk>, James Coupe <ja...@zephyr.org.uk> writes >Since the incoming copy of the unique card is the Soul Gem, by >implication I meant "burn the new copy of the Soul Gem". Sorry for not >being clearer. Oh bah, wrong example. Damnit. [ quoted text not captured ]

In message <9g3a03$u4u$1...@nntp1.ba.best.com>, Gomi no Sensei <go...@best.com> writes >The incoming Anson is burned. It's unclear if this re-triggers the Gem, but >I think it does. Since the incoming Anson never went into play (and was merely "incoming") I'd be tempted to rule that he never got the Soul Gem put on him. [ quoted text not captured ]

James Coupe wrote: > > In message <9g37mr$4bk$1...@hadron.noos.net>, Reyda <re...@noos.fr> writes > >I hve 2 vamps ready : Anson and Anneke with the soul gem on her. > >question 1 : Anneke is burned in combat. soul gem triggers. next vamp in the > >crypt is anson. He is put in play... How is the contest handled ?? > > As per his post, the card that would cause the contest (the new one) is > burned. > > "simply burn the incoming copy of the unique card." > > >Question 2 : I put Vast wealth on Anson. he takes the aciton to equip with > >... the soul gem. What happens ? > > Same again. > > >Question 3 : I'm contesting the soul gem with a vamp controlled by another > >methuselah. I play "Temptation of Greater Power" thanks to Anneke. I gain > >control of that vamp. How is the contest handled ? > > From "simply burn the incoming copy of the unique card" I would be > tempted to rule that you burn the copy on the vampire you just stole. > > LSJ may want to review this for consistency. Correct on all counts. -- LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc. Links to revised rulebook, rulings, errata, and tournament rules: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/

James Coupe wrote: > > In message <9g3a03$u4u$1...@nntp1.ba.best.com>, Gomi no Sensei > <go...@best.com> writes > >The incoming Anson is burned. It's unclear if this re-triggers the Gem, but > >I think it does. > > Since the incoming Anson never went into play (and was merely > "incoming") I'd be tempted to rule that he never got the Soul Gem put on > him. That's a fair idea, but it seems likely to eventually lead to some headaches. I'll put it on the RT list for review. -- LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc. ERC [ quoted text not captured ]

Vamp A blleds Methuselah controlling Vamp B. B (untapped) attempts to block and A plays superior Faceless Night (tapping B). The question: is B allowed to use a Deflection at this time (even if tapped)?

[ quoted text not captured ] Seems this question was answered very recently, actually. B is also allowed to play, for instance, a +intercept reaction card. This is because FN doesn't tap B immediately (which would preclude him from blocking or playing +intercept or any other reaction). B is tapped only when his controller announces "I don't block" or when some other block is successful. -- LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc. [ quoted text not captured ]