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[KMV SPOILER] Ossian!

44 messages from 21 participants · 01 February 2005 – 03 February 2005
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jnew...@difsol.com

Ossian Ally, 3 Pool Unique Werewolf with 4 life, 2 strength, 0 bleed. Red List. Ossian May enter combat with any vampire as a +1 stealth (D) action. In the first round of combat with a vampire who has played a card that requires Auspex during this action, that vampire cannot use any maneuvers or strikes. Ossian gains 1 life at the end of each round for each blood the opposing vampire used to heal damage or prevent destruction that round. WHOA! Pretty bad-ass if you ask me.

Frederick Scott

<jnew...@difsol.com> wrote in message news:1107273250.3...@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com... [ quoted text not captured ] WHOA! Overpriced at 3 pool if you ask me. Fred

Luis Duarte - Powerbase:Lisbon

[ quoted text not captured ] A nice company for a War Ghoul or Shambling Hordes deck IMO. Play it if your prey has a bad-ass Gun deck but watch out for the press... .- Luis Duarte

Emmit Svenson

[ quoted text not captured ] Yup, that's a dangerous ally. Watch out for his Traps, which will take down many vampires that can't deal out more than 2 damage a round or prevent 2 damage a round. Obedience won't stop him. S:CE will slow him down, but he'll rush you again next turn. Recruit him on your first turn with Jake Washington and watch the table groan. OTOH, Ossian's a soft target for a Trophy deck. No fiddling with diaberie necessary: if you can smack him for four, a Trophy is yours. It doesn't take much combat to trump his: guns, prevention, big strikes, Carrion Crows, whatever. Other combat allies like Warghouls, Muddles and Shambling Hordes can take him down. Weird card interaction: Ossian is the ally you don't want to hit with Crocodile's Tongue.

jnew...@difsol.com

> Yup, that's a dangerous ally. Watch out for his Traps, which will take > down many vampires that can't deal out more than 2 damage a round or > prevent 2 damage a round. Obedience won't stop him. S:CE will slow him > down, but he'll rush you again next turn. Recruit him on your first > turn with Jake Washington and watch the table groan. > > OTOH, Ossian's a soft target for a Trophy deck. No fiddling with > diaberie necessary: if you can smack him for four, a Trophy is yours. > It doesn't take much combat to trump his: guns, prevention, big > strikes, Carrion Crows, whatever. Other combat allies like Warghouls, > Muddles and Shambling Hordes can take him down. Picking the right soft targets early (with Memories of Mortality/Trap), he can get to a pretty high life total pretty fast. One more card for the all-ally storyline deck ;). > Weird card interaction: Ossian is the ally you don't want to hit with > Crocodile's Tongue. Well, not without planning for it, right. Tzimisce with Crows might not care that much. Or Tremere packing Weather Control. Or !Ventrue with prevention. Or someone with a Ghoul Retainer and a gun. John

Joshua Duffin

"Emmit Svenson" <emmits...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:1107274473....@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > jnewqu...@difsol.com wrote: > > Ossian > > Ally, 3 Pool > > > > Unique Werewolf with 4 life, 2 strength, 0 bleed. Red List. > > > > Ossian May enter combat with any vampire as a +1 stealth (D) action. > In > > the first round of combat with a vampire who has played a card that > > requires Auspex during this action, that vampire cannot use any > > maneuvers or strikes. Ossian gains 1 life at the end of each round > for > > each blood the opposing vampire used to heal damage or prevent > > destruction that round. > > > > WHOA! Pretty bad-ass if you ask me. > Weird card interaction: Ossian is the ally you don't want to hit with > Crocodile's Tongue. Do you mean because of the anti-Auspex ability? I'm not sure that would apply to an action that the acting vampire played Crocodile's Tongue on - it says "during this action" which appears to refer to Ossian's enter-combat-action ability. LSJ? Another rules question on that, while I'm here: If he takes his enter-combat ability and the target plays Read Intentions in the first round for a strike: dodge, does that strike: dodge work as normal? Or does Ossian's "that vampire cannot use any maneuvers or strikes" ability cause the vampire to become unable to "use" the strike: dodge, even though he could play the card? Or is the vampire unable to play the card on the first round at all, because he wouldn't be able to "use" the dodge if he plays it, and you can't attempt something that you can't do? The past tense on "has played a card" seems to indicate that Ossian's ability doesn't kick in until the card has already been played, though, in which case it wouldn't preemptively keep a card from being played? Josh it's not the time to ossify

Screaming Vermillian

A big stink bag of a waste of 3 pool, I think. He punches for two, so is likely to gain a net of one life, should you not prevent his damage, dodge it+additional strike, or ranged combat his ass. These are all pretty standard tricks for combat decks, so I see he'll only be good at taking down people unprepared for combat, and then taking on those who are prepared after he bulks up his life total. But then again, with his Redlist trait, he makes a fine target for combat decks to take down before he can get too nasty. Afraid he's going to gain some life off of people and be too unstoppable later? Rush it and take it down a few life, or kill it all together! I'd like Ossian with a 44 magnum or something though. Can you imagine how hot going to long and shooting for X (and gaining X life) can be for this guy after a while? :)

jnew...@difsol.com

Screaming Vermillian wrote: > A big stink bag of a waste of 3 pool, I think. > > He punches for two, so is likely to gain a net of one life, should you > not prevent his damage, dodge it+additional strike, or ranged combat > his ass. These are all pretty standard tricks for combat decks, so I > see he'll only be good at taking down people unprepared for combat, and > then taking on those who are prepared after he bulks up his life total. Nobody who'd use him will do so in a vacuum (at least not more than once). Play him with good support, and he is far more likely to become good. > But then again, with his Redlist trait, he makes a fine target for > combat decks to take down before he can get too nasty. Afraid he's > going to gain some life off of people and be too unstoppable later? > Rush it and take it down a few life, or kill it all together! > > I'd like Ossian with a 44 magnum or something though. Can you imagine > how hot going to long and shooting for X (and gaining X life) can be > for this guy after a while? :) Conceal it (or a few Berettas) out in a trap. Better yet, Conceal out the Crimson Sentinel. Heh. John

David Wilson, Mask of a Thousand Names

use abomination, compel the spirit, and you get two wolves

cmb...@purdue.edu

If only it could be concealed... [ quoted text not captured ]

sam...@gmail.com

He would be neat (if very expensive, given how vulnerable he is) with a Ghoul Retainer. Regards, Patrick Columbus, OH

sam...@gmail.com

Yes, but he makes a fine combo with Uriah Winter. Got to provide your own target, but once he's worked up some sweat he becomes pretty decent. Regards, Patrick Columbus, OH

John Flournoy

Screaming Vermillian wrote: > A big stink bag of a waste of 3 pool, I think. > > He punches for two, so is likely to gain a net of one life, should you > not prevent his damage, dodge it+additional strike, or ranged combat > his ass. These are all pretty standard tricks for combat decks, so I > see he'll only be good at taking down people unprepared for combat, and > then taking on those who are prepared after he bulks up his life total. > > I'd like Ossian with a 44 magnum or something though. Can you imagine > how hot going to long and shooting for X (and gaining X life) can be > for this guy after a while? :) Yeah, equipment would help Ossian tons. Like guns, or a Bang Nakh, or a Flak Jacket for rushing the non-combat guys to ignore their strike back for 1... -John Flournoy

Fabio "Sooner" Macedo

On 1 Feb 2005 09:22:51 -0800, jnew...@difsol.com wrote: > >Screaming Vermillian wrote: >> I'd like Ossian with a 44 magnum or something though. Can you imagine >> how hot going to long and shooting for X (and gaining X life) can be >> for this guy after a while? :) > >Conceal it (or a few Berettas) out in a trap. Better yet, Conceal out >the Crimson Sentinel. Heh. Play Tremere. Magic of the Smith some jackets. Use Nod to transfer it to Ossian. Magic of the Smith some ranged weapons if you fear you'll face ranged combat. Transfer it to Ossian. The finishing touch: Magic of the Smith the Sword of Nuln :) It is not that big of a setup since Magic of the Smith is a must in any Tremere rush deck who uses equipment. Just add in some extra Nods - they're trifle anyway - and a few Ossians. No big deal... best, Fabio "Sooner" Macedo V:EKN National Coordinator for Brazil -------------------------------------- Now a "luminary", whatever it means: http://www.thelasombra.com/WhosWho/fabiomacedo.htm

LSJ

"Joshua Duffin" <jtdu...@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:369p84F...@individual.net... > > "Emmit Svenson" <emmits...@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:1107274473....@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > > jnewqu...@difsol.com wrote: > > > Ossian > > > Ally, 3 Pool > > > > > > Unique Werewolf with 4 life, 2 strength, 0 bleed. Red List. > > > > > > Ossian May enter combat with any vampire as a +1 stealth (D) action. > > In > > > the first round of combat with a vampire who has played a card that > > > requires Auspex during this action, that vampire cannot use any > > > maneuvers or strikes. Ossian gains 1 life at the end of each round > > for > > > each blood the opposing vampire used to heal damage or prevent > > > destruction that round. > > > > > > WHOA! Pretty bad-ass if you ask me. > > > Weird card interaction: Ossian is the ally you don't want to hit with > > Crocodile's Tongue. > > Do you mean because of the anti-Auspex ability? I'm not sure that would > apply to an action that the acting vampire played Crocodile's Tongue > on - it says "during this action" which appears to refer to Ossian's > enter-combat-action ability. LSJ? "This action" refers to the current action, whatever it may be. Hit him with Croc Tongue and he must burn a life (two if superior) to block and then, if successful and combat occurs (here's where you want to play Change of Target :-), the acting vampire cannot maneuver or strike on the first round. > Another rules question on that, while I'm here: If he takes his > enter-combat ability and the target plays Read Intentions in the first > round for a strike: dodge, does that strike: dodge work as normal? Or Yes. -- LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc. V:TES homepage: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/ Though effective, appear to be ineffective -- Sun Tzu

Fabio "Sooner" Macedo

On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 13:49:43 -0500, "LSJ" <vte...@white-wolf.com> wrote: >"Joshua Duffin" <jtdu...@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:369p84F...@individual.net... >> >> "Emmit Svenson" <emmits...@hotmail.com> wrote in message >> > Weird card interaction: Ossian is the ally you don't want to hit with >> > Crocodile's Tongue. >> >> Do you mean because of the anti-Auspex ability? I'm not sure that would >> apply to an action that the acting vampire played Crocodile's Tongue >> on - it says "during this action" which appears to refer to Ossian's >> enter-combat-action ability. LSJ? > >"This action" refers to the current action, whatever it may be. > >Hit him with Croc Tongue and he must burn a life (two if superior) to >block and then, if successful and combat occurs (here's where you >want to play Change of Target :-), the acting vampire cannot maneuver >or strike on the first round. Two more possible scenarios. (Of course no one would want to play aura reading in combat with him, I guess... at least in most circunstances) Vamp A rushes Ossian with Nose of the Hound. He doesn't have the maneuvers for the first round and does not strike. Pretty simple, right? >> Another rules question on that, while I'm here: If he takes his >> enter-combat ability and the target plays Read Intentions in the first >> round for a strike: dodge, does that strike: dodge work as normal? Or > >Yes. And this one? Vamp A is a Tzimisce and is blocked by Ossian. It plays Carrion Crows and choses to strike with Canine Horde. It won't kill Ossian. He draws a Primal Instinct and a Scorpion Sting. Ossian declares hands for 2. If he uses Primal Instinct to change his current strike, he loses his capacity to strike from now on - because Primal just allows him to play another strike a little later, and now it's too late - or can he play the Sting because it resolves at the same time the Canine Horde would resolve? [ quoted text not captured ]

Stefan Ferenci

John Flournoy wrote: > > Yeah, equipment would help Ossian tons. Like guns, or a Bang Nakh, or a > Flak Jacket for rushing the non-combat guys to ignore their strike back > for 1... > > -John Flournoy > memories of mortality +trap,and you have an ally that can gain a lot of life. yummee. he is pretty strong and not overpriced. stefan

LSJ

"Fabio "Sooner" Macedo" <fa...@cohesp.com.br> wrote in message news:2ckvv0prlisscbsi9...@4ax.com... > Vamp A rushes Ossian with Nose of the Hound. > He doesn't have the maneuvers for the first round and does not strike. > Pretty simple, right? Right. > If he uses Primal Instinct to change his current strike, he loses his > capacity to strike from now on - because Primal just allows him to > play another strike a little later, and now it's too late Sure. [ quoted text not captured ]

jnew...@difsol.com

Emmit Svenson wrote: > Weird card interaction: Ossian is the ally you don't want to hit with > Crocodile's Tongue. Wierder card interaction: Fast Reaction. Let's just stand here and stare at each other for the first round! John

Fabio "Sooner" Macedo

[ quoted text not captured ] I guess that Ossian must compared to another allies in the game, not thrown in any possible combat scenario against other vampires. Allies are weaker than vampires by default and likely will always be, so most examples of combat strategies that can kill him will do the same to any other ally yet released. Maybe the War Ghoul stands a little higher than him in this regard, but even it has obvious disadvantages - like needing extra cards to recoup blood, while Ossian can potentially do the trick by itself. Anyone using allies in a combat-oriented deck will count on the above assumption and plan accordingly, no matter what they choose to make him better at hitting people or at defending its own life. The best comparison I can make is with the Renegade Garou. Ossian has obvious advantages (is a little harder to block, potentially gains more life than the old Garou, limit combat options for his opponent) and disadvantages (is Red List, doesn't have a buit-in additional strike, and pottentially can stand several turns without gaining a single life). Renegade costs 5 and Ossian costs 3. I don't think it's overpriced. One can assume that he gets 2 pool cheaper for his Red List trait alone. And don't forget that we didn't see all the cards yet. Until now we have a card to assign any name to the dreaded Red List. Who's to say we'll have no card to *remove* the Red List trait? At least I hope so. Ossian without this trait is too much to ignore... I'm with Stefan. [ quoted text not captured ]

Janne Hägglund

"Screaming Vermillian" <vermil...@yahoo.com> writes: > He punches for two, so is likely to gain a net of one life, Yet another way of making Ossian fearsome: Harbringers recruit him, play Martyr's Resilience. "It won't die!" -- hg@ "If you can't offend part of your audience, iki.fi there is no point in being an artist at all." -Hakim Bey

Joshua Duffin

"LSJ" <vte...@white-wolf.com> wrote in message news:36a14sF...@individual.net... > "Joshua Duffin" <jtdu...@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:369p84F...@individual.net... > > > > Ossian > > > > Ally, 3 Pool > > > > > > > > Unique Werewolf with 4 life, 2 strength, 0 bleed. Red List. > > > > > > > > Ossian May enter combat with any vampire as a +1 stealth (D) action. > > > In > > > > the first round of combat with a vampire who has played a card that > > > > requires Auspex during this action, that vampire cannot use any > > > > maneuvers or strikes. Ossian gains 1 life at the end of each round > > > for > > > > each blood the opposing vampire used to heal damage or prevent > > > > destruction that round. > > > > Do you mean because of the anti-Auspex ability? I'm not sure that would > > apply to an action that the acting vampire played Crocodile's Tongue > > on - it says "during this action" which appears to refer to Ossian's > > enter-combat-action ability. LSJ? > > "This action" refers to the current action, whatever it may be. Oh, okay. The phrase "this action" makes it seem like it's referring back to a previously mentioned action. I usually expect "the current action" for "the current action". :-) > > Another rules question on that, while I'm here: If he takes his > > enter-combat ability and the target plays Read Intentions in the first > > round for a strike: dodge, does that strike: dodge work as normal? Or > > Yes. I like this answer fine. But doesn't "use" normally (as with Grenades) include both the declaration of a strike and the resolution of a strike? It seems like someone could make the argument that resolving the Dodge is "using" the strike, and since the vampire has played a card requiring Auspex during the current action, that vampire shouldn't be able to "use" that strike. Josh ossianic

jnew...@difsol.com

Janne Hägglund wrote: > "Screaming Vermillian" <vermil...@yahoo.com> writes: > > > He punches for two, so is likely to gain a net of one life, > > Yet another way of making Ossian fearsome: Harbringers recruit him, play > Martyr's Resilience. "It won't die!" And if he does get killed, you pull him back out of the ash heap with Nec. John [ quoted text not captured ]

LSJ

"Joshua Duffin" <jtdu...@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:36a6t7F...@individual.net... > "LSJ" <vte...@white-wolf.com> wrote in message > > "Joshua Duffin" <jtdu...@yahoo.com> wrote in message > > > Another rules question on that, while I'm here: If he takes his > > > enter-combat ability and the target plays Read Intentions in the > first > > > round for a strike: dodge, does that strike: dodge work as normal? > Or > > > > Yes. > > I like this answer fine. But doesn't "use" normally (as with Grenades) > include both the declaration of a strike and the resolution of a strike? > It seems like someone could make the argument that resolving the Dodge > is "using" the strike, and since the vampire has played a card requiring > Auspex during the current action, that vampire shouldn't be able to > "use" that strike. Perhaps something like: He played it, so he's using it. The use will conclude when the strike resolves. [ quoted text not captured ]

Frederick Scott

"Joshua Duffin" <jtdu...@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:36a6t7F...@individual.net... > > "LSJ" <vte...@white-wolf.com> wrote in message > news:36a14sF...@individual.net... >> "Joshua Duffin" <jtdu...@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:369p84F...@individual.net... > >> > > > Ossian >> > > > Ally, 3 Pool >> > > > >> > > > Unique Werewolf with 4 life, 2 strength, 0 bleed. Red >> > > > List. >> > > > >> > > > Ossian May enter combat with any vampire as a +1 >> > > > stealth (D) action. In the first round of combat with >> > > > a vampire who has played a card that requires Auspex >> > > > during this action, that vampire cannot use any >> > > > maneuvers or strikes. Ossian gains 1 life at the end of >> > > > each round for each blood the opposing vampire used to >> > > > heal damage or prevent destruction that round. >> "This action" refers to the current action, whatever it may >> be. > > Oh, okay. The phrase "this action" makes it seem like it's > referring back to a previously mentioned action. Eh? It _does_ refer back to the previously mentioned action: whatever action got him into a combat with a vampire who was played a card that requires Auspect. (Well, anyway, I didn't think twice about it. And I'm usually pretty adept at seeing alternative meanings depending on how a sentence is construed.) >> > If he takes his enter-combat ability and the target plays >> > Read Intentions in the first round for a strike: dodge, >> > does that strike: dodge work as normal? > >> Yes. > > I like this answer fine. But doesn't "use" normally (as with > Grenades) include both the declaration of a strike and the > resolution of a strike? It seems like someone could make the > argument that resolving the Dodge is "using" the strike, and > since the vampire has played a card requiring Auspex during > the current action, that vampire shouldn't be able to "use" > that strike. Granted, I don't know a lot about the finer points of this interpretation to know if your objection holds much water or not. But if you were right, this reduces to: "A minion who plays Read Intentions (against Ossian) may not strike with Read Intentions." My one-word response: "Ugh!". :-P Fred

Joshua Duffin

"LSJ" <vte...@white-wolf.com> wrote in message news:36a8okF...@individual.net... > "Joshua Duffin" <jtdu...@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:36a6t7F...@individual.net... > > "LSJ" <vte...@white-wolf.com> wrote in message > > > "Joshua Duffin" <jtdu...@yahoo.com> wrote in message > > > > Another rules question on that, while I'm here: If he takes his > > > > enter-combat ability and the target plays Read Intentions in the > > first > > > > round for a strike: dodge, does that strike: dodge work as normal? > > Or > > > > > > Yes. > > > > I like this answer fine. But doesn't "use" normally (as with Grenades) > > include both the declaration of a strike and the resolution of a strike? > > It seems like someone could make the argument that resolving the Dodge > > is "using" the strike, and since the vampire has played a card requiring > > Auspex during the current action, that vampire shouldn't be able to > > "use" that strike. > > > Perhaps something like: > He played it, so he's using it. The use will conclude when the > strike resolves. So, since he's already declared the strike, Ossian's ability won't intervene and make him retroactively stop using it? Sounds good. Josh will try not to sing out of key

X_Ze...@cox-internet.com

<jnew...@difsol.com> wrote in message news:1107273250.3...@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com... > Ossian > Ally, 3 Pool > > Unique Werewolf with 4 life, 2 strength, 0 bleed. Red List. > > Ossian May enter combat with any vampire as a +1 stealth (D) action. In > the first round of combat with a vampire who has played a card that > requires Auspex during this action, that vampire cannot use any > maneuvers or strikes. Ossian gains 1 life at the end of each round for > each blood the opposing vampire used to heal damage or prevent > destruction that round. > > > WHOA! Pretty bad-ass if you ask me. > Hmm.... Weighted Walking Stick, Lucky Blow, and Pulled Fangs..... Ossian gains 5 life, OUCH! Add Mark of Damnation Ossian gains 7 life with an optional press. Add Form of Corruption Hey look free vampire! Hello Arika! Comments Welcome, Norman S. Brown, Jr. XZealot Archon of the Swamp

tzimisce_dragon

<jnew...@difsol.com> wrote in message news:1107275478....@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > > Well, not without planning for it, right. Tzimisce with Crows might not > care that much. Or Tremere packing Weather Control. Or !Ventrue with > prevention. Or someone with a Ghoul Retainer and a gun. > Well, a Tremere playing Weather control against that ally would be a really stupid one, as the damage Ossian would get from WC (funny acronym for Weather Control, don't you think ? :P), would be recovered at the end of the round due to his special, that gives him life equal to the blod lost due to damage from the opposing vampire. Anyway, WC is a bad idea, BtoWater is a good one... Even though this ally can be brought down, he is good and can be a real pain in the ass if he plays a trap to a Memories Mortalized vampire and torporize him, while he gets out with +8 life... George

tzimisce_dragon

"tzimisce_dragon" <geo...@for.auth.gr> wrote in message news:ctouti$qs4$1...@nic.grnet.gr... > > <jnew...@difsol.com> wrote in message > news:1107275478....@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > > > > Well, not without planning for it, right. Tzimisce with Crows might not > > care that much. Or Tremere packing Weather Control. Or !Ventrue with > > prevention. Or someone with a Ghoul Retainer and a gun. > > > > Well, a Tremere playing Weather control against that ally would be a really > stupid one, as the damage Ossian would get from WC (funny acronym for > Weather Control, don't you think ? :P), would be recovered at the end of the > round due to his special, that gives him life equal to the blod lost due to > damage > from the opposing vampire. to avoid confusion... with the above i mean, that WC will deal X damage to Ossian and Ossian will get X life back at the end of the round, due to the fact that the vampire who played WC will lose X blood to WC damage. George

jnew...@difsol.com

tzimisce_dragon wrote: > <jnew...@difsol.com> wrote in message > news:1107275478....@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > > > > Well, not without planning for it, right. Tzimisce with Crows might not > > care that much. Or Tremere packing Weather Control. Or !Ventrue with > > prevention. Or someone with a Ghoul Retainer and a gun. > > > > Well, a Tremere playing Weather control against that ally would be a really > stupid one, as the damage Ossian would get from WC (funny acronym for > Weather Control, don't you think ? :P), would be recovered at the end of the > round due to his special, that gives him life equal to the blod lost due to > damage > from the opposing vampire. Anyway, WC is a bad idea, BtoWater is a good > one... Sorry, I meant to say "a couple of Weather Controls" (as in, enough to kill him so he can't get life back). But yeah, right. > Even though this ally can be brought down, he is good and can be a real pain > in the ass > if he plays a trap to a Memories Mortalized vampire and torporize him, while > he gets out > with +8 life... Right, I think he's on the strong end of allies, overall. > George

Derek Ray

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tzimisce_dragon

"Derek Ray" <lor...@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:pPydnSUJfsf...@giganews.com... > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > jnew...@difsol.com wrote: > | Ossian > | Ally, 3 Pool > | > | Unique Werewolf with 4 life, 2 strength, 0 bleed. Red List. > | > | Ossian May enter combat with any vampire as a +1 stealth (D) action. In > | the first round of combat with a vampire who has played a card that > | requires Auspex during this action, that vampire cannot use any > | maneuvers or strikes. Ossian gains 1 life at the end of each round for > | each blood the opposing vampire used to heal damage or prevent > | destruction that round. > > One word: Rave. > Definetely :) Ossian is a true Raver.... ;) George

Dasein

jnew...@difsol.com wrote: > Ossian > Ally, 3 Pool > > Unique Werewolf with 4 life, 2 strength, 0 bleed. Red List. > > Ossian May enter combat with any vampire as a +1 stealth (D) action. In > the first round of combat with a vampire who has played a card that > requires Auspex during this action, that vampire cannot use any > maneuvers or strikes. Ossian gains 1 life at the end of each round for > each blood the opposing vampire used to heal damage or prevent > destruction that round. Hmm I can see a fun combo here. A Tremere vampire pulls out a Sword of Nuln, and Ossian takes it from him ("hey shiny sword, thanks buddy, I'll bring it back after I've chopped a few heads"). Ossian rushes someone (probably any vampire with a fair bit of blood and no fortitude), whacks them with the sword via a lucky blow for 3 damage; they have to burn 6 blood to heal/prevent destruction. And if they do, he gets all 6, and goes to 10 life :) if you want to get really silly, next turn minion tap the tremere, Rave the blood to him, then the turn after do it all again.

tzimisce_dragon

<jnew...@difsol.com> wrote in message news:1107273250.3...@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com... > Ossian > Ally, 3 Pool > > Unique Werewolf with 4 life, 2 strength, 0 bleed. Red List. > > Ossian May enter combat with any vampire as a +1 stealth (D) action. In > the first round of combat with a vampire who has played a card that > requires Auspex during this action, that vampire cannot use any > maneuvers or strikes. Ossian gains 1 life at the end of each round for > each blood the opposing vampire used to heal damage or prevent > destruction that round. > > > WHOA! Pretty bad-ass if you ask me. > i don't know what happened, but Ossian is once again "grey"... Anyway, this is how it appears in my browser... What the f*ck... ???? Well, it seemed pretty real to be a "pox-fly", if they pulled some kind of trick on us, i will send the Great Beast after LSJ to kick his ass.... George

Gregory Stuart Pettigrew

> i don't know what happened, but Ossian is once again "grey"... > Anyway, this is how it appears in my browser... > > What the f*ck... ???? > Maybe he saw his shadow? > Well, it seemed pretty real to be a "pox-fly", if they pulled some > kind of trick on us, i will send the Great Beast after LSJ to kick > his ass.... > Groundhog Day pranks are pretty rare...

LSJ

Gregory Stuart Pettigrew wrote: >>i don't know what happened, but Ossian is once again "grey"... >>Anyway, this is how it appears in my browser... > Maybe he saw his shadow? >>Well, it seemed pretty real to be a "pox-fly", if they pulled some >>kind of trick on us, i will send the Great Beast after LSJ to kick >>his ass.... > Groundhog Day pranks are pretty rare... Nice save. Yeah, Groundhog's Day, that's it. Eh. My computer at home had a time shift so my synch didn't go off as scheduled when I got home. Then the update I posted from home failed to have the new image. Corrected now. Thanks. -- LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc. Links to V:TES news, rules, cards, utilities, and tournament calendar: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/

tzimisce_dragon

"LSJ" <vte...@white-wolf.com> wrote in message news:YY2Md.135882$w62....@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net... > > Nice save. Yeah, Groundhog's Day, that's it. > > Eh. My computer at home had a time shift so my synch didn't go off > as scheduled when I got home. Then the update I posted from home > failed to have the new image. Corrected now. > > Thanks. > What is Groundhog's day ??? Anyway, i am glad that it was just a technical matter.... :) and not some twisted joke of yours... as Ossian is truly great... If you wanted to make fun with us, you could have said that Ossian was not unique.... that would drive us insane with him... and the next day... "IT IS unique, i've fooled ya..." and then we would have hunt you down and steal all your cards! George

LSJ

"tzimisce_dragon" <geo...@for.auth.gr> wrote in message news:ctqgn0$lvv$1...@nic.grnet.gr... > > "LSJ" <vte...@white-wolf.com> wrote in message > news:YY2Md.135882$w62....@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net... > > > > Nice save. Yeah, Groundhog's Day, that's it. > > > > Eh. My computer at home had a time shift so my synch didn't go off > > as scheduled when I got home. Then the update I posted from home > > failed to have the new image. Corrected now. > > > > What is Groundhog's day ??? A: A Movie starring Bill Murray (involving time shift, as it happens). B: February 2nd -- the day on which the first groundhog emerges from hibernation and all the other animals (and humans) wait with anticpation to see if the groundhog sees his shadow. If he does, there'll be six more weeks of winter. If not, spring is near. -- LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc. [ quoted text not captured ]

tzimisce_dragon

"LSJ" <vte...@white-wolf.com> wrote in message news:36c1kcF...@individual.net... > "tzimisce_dragon" <geo...@for.auth.gr> wrote in message news:ctqgn0$lvv$1...@nic.grnet.gr... > > > B: February 2nd -- the day on which the first groundhog emerges from > hibernation and all the other animals (and humans) wait with > anticpation to see if the groundhog sees his shadow. If he does, > there'll be six more weeks of winter. If not, spring is near. > Well, did it look at his shadow ? :P I believe he did, if i jusge from the fact that it is currently snowing here... George

LSJ

"tzimisce_dragon" <geo...@for.auth.gr> wrote in message news:ctqjpp$pus$1...@nic.grnet.gr... > "LSJ" <vte...@white-wolf.com> wrote in message > > B: February 2nd -- the day on which the first groundhog emerges from > > hibernation and all the other animals (and humans) wait with > > anticpation to see if the groundhog sees his shadow. If he does, > > there'll be six more weeks of winter. If not, spring is near. > > > > Well, did it look at his shadow ? :P > > I believe he did, if i jusge from the fact that it is currently snowing > here... Six more weeks, yep. http://www.visitpa.com/groundhog [ quoted text not captured ]

sinaath

One more Ossian question: Ossian blocks Vampire. Vamire strikes: Read Intentions (dodge) - triggering Ossian ability: no strike! Can she play blur? Just to cycle cards, so she can get some presses? So the question is: can you play blur when you cannot strike? I'm guessing no, but just want to be sure. sinaath

LSJ

[ quoted text not captured ] Yes. The classic example is when under the "cannot strike" effects of Hidden Lurker or Fast Reaction. -- LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc. [ quoted text not captured ]

Wes

"LSJ" <vte...@white-wolf.com> wrote > > B: February 2nd -- the day on which the first groundhog emerges from > hibernation and all the other animals (and humans) wait with > anticpation to see if the groundhog sees his shadow. If he does, > there'll be six more weeks of winter. If not, spring is near. Our famous Canadian groundhog is a double murderer. Not sure what this means w.r.t. spring. http://www.cbc.ca/stories/2003/09/23/willie_killer030923

tzimisce_dragon

"Wes" <gh...@NYETSPAMmnsi.net> wrote in message news:ctsd6...@enews4.newsguy.com... [ quoted text not captured ] :) maybe LSJ gets inspired by this and releases a card named Willie Wiarton Earp, the killer an infernal ally groundhog... :P George