Detection Question

The card says that the vampire cannot cast any votes, does that mean he cannot call them either? Since a political vote card always gives one vote, or does it mean that the vampire can call the vote but doesn't gain the 1 vote the card gives? Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.

Mark & Kathy ShaneWood wrote: > Michael F. Tomkins <m.to...@student.canberra.edu.au> wrote: > > LSJ <vte...@white-wolf.com> wrote: > > > Votes from a Political Action card is cast only by the Methuselah - > > > it is not considered to be cast by the vampire playing it (if any). > > > > Ok, so the vote card is from the Methuselah, what about Charming Lobby, > > States gain 2 Votes at Superior? > > > That's the rub of Detection. Most Action Modifiers state "gain X votes" - > the minion playing the AM would gain them, and a Detected Lasombra can > _gain_ them, but can't cast them. So he sits there with his stack of votes > and abstains. Correct (although Charming Lobby is not an Action Modifier). The votes from the card come from the vampire. See the clarified card text online: +1 stealth {political action. Call a referendum. If the referendum passes, then the next referendum called} thereafter passes automatically. (S) As above, and <this vampire gains> 2 votes for the first <referendum>. -- LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc. Links to revised rulebook, rulings, errata, and tournament rules: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/