LSJ Voter captivation and Firebrand

Hi LSJ, and others, Someone plays Firebrand, and the vote passes. I was wondering, is there a time window in which you can you use firebrand, before playing a votercap? thx! W

[ quoted text not captured ] You can't cast the new extra vote from the Firebrand in the referendum that has already been successful in placing the Firebrand, no.

[ quoted text not captured ] Heh, that part i understood already, thx. votes have been cast already. What i meant was the other part of firebrand. Can i burn a blood to untap an anarch, before playing votercap (thereby filling her up completely again) W

[ quoted text not captured ] Ah. That you can do, yes.

[ quoted text not captured ] Vampire x, x-1,x-2 and x-3 are all anarch X calls RC. Can you use the firebrands tio untap all anrchs younger that were tapped to allow mass untapping and retapping for the same RC, or is it only usable to untap them for the second RC? Firebrand Type: Political Action Requires: anarch Requires an anarch. If this referendum is successful, put this card on the acting anarch. This anarch gets 1 additional vote during a political action. During your minion phase, this anarch can burn 1 blood to untap a ready younger anarch. Burn this card if this anarch goes to torpor. An anarch may have only 1 Firebrand.

Blooded Sand wrote: > On Aug 6, 12:55 pm, LSJ <vtes...@white-wolf.com> wrote: >> Cooper wrote: >>> On 6 aug, 12:44, LSJ <vtes...@white-wolf.com> wrote: >>>> Cooper wrote: >>>>> Hi LSJ, and others, >>>>> Someone plays Firebrand, and the vote passes. I was wondering, is >>>>> there a time window in which you can you use firebrand, before playing >>>>> a votercap? >>>> You can't cast the new extra vote from the Firebrand in the referendum that has >>>> already been successful in placing the Firebrand, no. >>> Heh, that part i understood already, thx. votes have been cast >>> already. >>> What i meant was the other part of firebrand. Can i burn a blood to >>> untap an anarch, before playing votercap (thereby filling her up >>> completely again) >> Ah. That you can do, yes. > > Vampire x, x-1,x-2 and x-3 are all anarch > X calls RC. RC? [ quoted text not captured ]

On Aug 6, 1:57 pm, LSJ <vtes...@white-wolf.com> wrote: > Blooded Sand wrote: > > On Aug 6, 12:55 pm, LSJ <vtes...@white-wolf.com> wrote: > >> Cooper wrote: > >>> On 6 aug, 12:44, LSJ <vtes...@white-wolf.com> wrote: > >>>> Cooper wrote: > >>>>> Hi LSJ, and others, > >>>>> Someone plays Firebrand, and the vote passes. I was wondering, is > >>>>> there a time window in which you can you use firebrand, before playing > >>>>> a votercap? > >>>> You can't cast the new extra vote from the Firebrand in the referendum that has > >>>> already been successful in placing the Firebrand, no. > >>> Heh, that part i understood already, thx. votes have been cast > >>> already. > >>> What i meant was the other part of firebrand. Can i burn a blood to > >>> untap an anarch, before playing votercap (thereby filling her up > >>> completely again) > >> Ah. That you can do, yes. > > > Vampire x, x-1,x-2 and x-3 are all anarch > > X calls RC. > > RC? Revolutionary Council. Takes way too long to type out ;) Plus I'm lazy... [ quoted text not captured ]

RC is there for Revolutionnary council i guess... :)

LSJ wrote: > Blooded Sand wrote: >> On Aug 6, 12:55 pm, LSJ <vtes...@white-wolf.com> wrote: >>> Cooper wrote: >>>> On 6 aug, 12:44, LSJ <vtes...@white-wolf.com> wrote: >>>>> Cooper wrote: >>>> What i meant was the other part of firebrand. Can i burn a blood to >>>> untap an anarch, before playing votercap (thereby filling her up >>>> completely again) >>> Ah. That you can do, yes. >> >> Vampire x, x-1,x-2 and x-3 are all anarch >> X calls RC. > > RC? My guess is Revolutionary Council. And the answer is no, from RC's card text. You choose X all at once, at the start. Even if you untap them later you'd still be only choosing X distinct anarchs, not 2X. > Can you use the firebrands tio untap all anrchs younger >> that were tapped to allow mass untapping and retapping for the same >> RC, or is it only usable to untap them for the second RC? Second RC. Still fun though. >> >> Firebrand >> Type: Political Action >> Requires: anarch >> Requires an anarch. >> If this referendum is successful, put this card on the acting anarch. >> This anarch gets 1 additional vote during a political action. During >> your minion phase, this anarch can burn 1 blood to untap a ready >> younger anarch. Burn this card if this anarch goes to torpor. An >> anarch may have only 1 Firebrand. -- salem (replace 'hotmail' with 'gmail' to email)

Salem wrote: > LSJ wrote: >> Blooded Sand wrote: >>> Vampire x, x-1,x-2 and x-3 are all anarch >>> X calls RC. >> >> RC? > > My guess is Revolutionary Council. > > And the answer is no, from RC's card text. You choose X all at once, at > the start. Even if you untap them later you'd still be only choosing X > distinct anarchs, not 2X. Correct. [ quoted text not captured ]

[ quoted text not captured ] Works with domain challenge though, correct?

On 6 aug, 14:13, Salem <kella...@hotmail.com> wrote: > LSJ wrote: > > Blooded Sand wrote: > >> On Aug 6, 12:55 pm, LSJ <vtes...@white-wolf.com> wrote: > >>> Cooper wrote: > >>>> On 6 aug, 12:44, LSJ <vtes...@white-wolf.com> wrote: > >>>>> Cooper wrote: > >>>> What i meant was the other part of firebrand. Can i burn a blood to > >>>> untap an anarch, before playing votercap (thereby filling her up > >>>> completely again) > >>> Ah. That you can do, yes. > > >> Vampire x, x-1,x-2 and x-3 are all anarch > >> X calls RC. > > > RC? > > My guess is Revolutionary Council. > > And the answer is no, from RC's card text. You choose X all at once, at > the start. Even if you untap them later you'd still be only choosing X > distinct anarchs, not 2X. > > > Can you use the firebrands tio untap all anrchs younger > >> that were tapped to allow mass untapping and retapping for the same > >> RC, or is it only usable to untap them for the second RC? > > Second RC. Still fun though. Fun, yes...but i dont think it is very viable. You would need lots of small vamps to really make use of that. you need lots of firebrands that are usable => many different capacities. you need at least 2 barons (5+cap) to play it twice. You would need a breed machine to do this i think,...and for breed- machines there are easier ways to win, and this system is pretty fragile. W

[ quoted text not captured ] What you would actually need is a crypt that scales well, from 11 down to 1 cpas, one of each preferably Then get big un out, use Dom or Pre to bring the smaller ones out

[ quoted text not captured ] Same thing. way too much set up time. You need to breed, you need to get anarch, you need to get firebranded (and be sure that is unblocked and passes) you need to get baron, and only after all those steps you start doing damage to your prey. he already has 3 VP's by then :-) W

Cooper schrieb: [ quoted text not captured ] I agree. Firebrand is pretty good stand-alone. 1 additional vote and perma-untap, whats not to like? RC is a oust-now card anyway so I wouldn�t play more than 2-3 in a given deck. The good thing is with FB you can still vote KRC with a weenie, then untap and still make him count for +2 in the RC.

[ quoted text not captured ] Hmmmmm deck idea brewing, back soon!