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Retargetting effects during change of control? Anima Gathering vs. From a Sinking Ship

6 messages from 5 participants · 10 January 2006 – 11 January 2006
original thread on Google Groups

d

Zoe has Anima Gathering targetting Samantha. The unfortunate prey of this combo plays From a Sinking Ship and takes control of Zoe (permanently). Since Anima Gathering has now come under the control of a new Methusaleh (by the minion card rule) can or must the new Controller retarget the effect of Anima Gathering to one of their own minions? If not, does Anima Gathering stop giving bonuses to Samantha because she is not "another minion you control" ? Name: Anima Gathering [KMW:C] Cardtype: Action Discipline: Auspex +1 stealth action. [aus] Put this card on this acting vampire and choose another minion you control. Burn this card if this minion untaps. During your untap phase, you may choose not to untap this minion as normal. The chosen minion gets +2 intercept. [AUS] As above, and the chosen minion also gets +1 bleed.

jnew...@difsol.com

d wrote: > Zoe has Anima Gathering targetting Samantha. > > The unfortunate prey of this combo plays From a Sinking Ship and takes > control of Zoe (permanently). > > Since Anima Gathering has now come under the control of a new > Methusaleh (by the minion card rule) can or must the new Controller > retarget the effect of Anima Gathering to one of their own minions? No, you choose the minion when you play the card. > If not, does Anima Gathering stop giving bonuses to Samantha because > she is not "another minion you control" ? No. The minion must be one you control when you play Anima Gathering. >From that point on, it is "the chosen minion" and gets the benefits regardless of its controller.

illarion

> > If not, does Anima Gathering stop giving bonuses to Samantha because > > she is not "another minion you control" ? > No. The minion must be one you control when you play Anima Gathering. > >From that point on, it is "the chosen minion" and gets the benefits > regardless of its controller. The new controller could simply choose to untap Zoe (thus burning Anima Gathering) though, yes?

d

Any other opinions on this? Or is that official? I can follow the logic, but it still seems odd to have Anima Gathering give a bonus to a minion you don't control.

Tom Duncan

Yes, but it's like having Zoe equipping with the Sword of Troile from Black Cat - She can't equip it from your hand, but if it's already in play the clan restriction doesn't matter.

LSJ

d wrote: > Any other opinions on this? Or is that official? "This" without context is pretty lonely. It's official. Effects set at the play of a card are not reset unless card text says so.