[LSJ]

Questions 1) What goes off first Undead Persisitance or Amaranth? 2) If your !Brujah is taking a leave torpor action and is blocked can he play Blood Brother Ambush? -- Comments Welcome, Norman S. Brown, Jr. XZealot Archon of the Swamp

XZealot wrote: > Questions > 1) What goes off first Undead Persisitance or Amaranth? First one played. Google: "persistence amaranth author:LSJ" > 2) If your !Brujah is taking a leave torpor action and is blocked can he > play Blood Brother Ambush? Online rulings: Blood Brother Ambush: Blood Brother Ambush can be used by a BrujahAnti taking an action while in torpor. If this happens, the blocker loses the opportunity to commit diablerie. [RTR 20010710] -- LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc. Links to V:TES news, rules, cards, utilities, and tournament calendar: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/

Card marking.... How does that work? Are they illegal for tournament play. [ quoted text not captured ]

XZealot wrote: > Card marking.... How does that work? Are they illegal for tournament play. Marked cards are illegal by definition, yes. See V:EKN 5.4 for a description of what constitutes a marked card. [ quoted text not captured ]

I am confused, Minion A strikes B and during strike resolution, B will go to torpor. Must A allow be to play undead persitence before declaring amaranth or is this some sort of bizare speed of play step? I understand that is A asks are you going to torpor, B can't say yes and then respond with the undead persistence. David "LSJ" <vte...@white-wolf.com> wrote in message news:3E75DC2E...@white-wolf.com... [ quoted text not captured ]

Metropolis <do...@umich.edu> wrote: > I am confused, > Minion A strikes B and during strike resolution, B will go to torpor. > Must A allow be to play undead persitence before declaring amaranth or is > this some sort of bizare speed of play step? > I understand that is A asks are you going to torpor, B can't say yes and > then respond with the undead persistence. [IANLSJ] The way I see it, to be consistent with other rules, the acting minion always gets first opportunity to play cards. So if the acting minion is the one going to torpor, he can play UP. If the acting minion is the one who performed the strike, he can play Amaranth. I may be wrong. Additional question: Two vampires knock each other into torpor. One of them plays UP. Can he immediately play Amaranth, or is it too late?

Jozxyqk wrote: > Metropolis <do...@umich.edu> wrote: > >>I am confused, > > >>Minion A strikes B and during strike resolution, B will go to torpor. > >>Must A allow be to play undead persitence before declaring amaranth or is >>this some sort of bizare speed of play step? Neither. If A wants to play Amaranth and B wants to play Undead Persistence at the same time, the standard rules are used to resolve the situation. [1.6.1.6] >>I understand that is A asks are you going to torpor, B can't say yes and >>then respond with the undead persistence. > > [IANLSJ] The way I see it, to be consistent with other rules, the acting > minion always gets first opportunity to play cards. So if the acting minion > is the one going to torpor, he can play UP. If the acting minion is the one > who performed the strike, he can play Amaranth. Correct. Amaranth: Only usable when the opposing vampire should go to torpor Undead Persistence: Only usable when this vampire should go into torpor. At some point, in order to play Amaranth or in order to play Undead Persistence, vampire B meets the "should go to torpor" requirement. Either effect (Amaranth or Undead Persistence) can be played at that time (card text). If Amaranth is played, Undead Persistence cannot be (B's no longer of the "should go to torpor" variety). If Undead Persistence is played, Amaranth cannot be (likewise). By 1.6.1.6, the acting minion gets first chance to play. > Additional question: Two vampires knock each other into torpor. > One of them plays UP. Can he immediately play Amaranth, or is it too late? He can, if he's acting. If his opponent is acting, by 1.6.1.6, the opponent gets a chance to respond to the Undead Persistence with one of his own before passing the opportunity to play back to the non-acting combatant. [ quoted text not captured ]