I did a search for this, but couldn't find anything.
Actually, I suppose this could apply to almost all cards.
Veil of Darkness is in play.
My first discipline card is either a reaction or action mod. I show a
Master and this card fails. Can I play the same one again if I have
another copy in my hand (I assume no, but would like to check).
If a reaction would tap this reacting minion, would I be tapped? I
assume no as this is part of the resolution of the card.
In terms of an action. Would you be tapped?
If not, would you be able to play another copy of the same action card
again (again, I assume no).
If yes, could you play a Superior Freak Drive to untap as the action
was unsuccessful.
Cheers
Andy
Slytherin wrote:
> I did a search for this, but couldn't find anything.
>
> Actually, I suppose this could apply to almost all cards.
>
> Veil of Darkness is in play.
>
> My first discipline card is either a reaction or action mod. I show a
> Master and this card fails. Can I play the same one again if I have
> another copy in my hand (I assume no, but would like to check).
>
No, the card is played but simply has no effect.
> If a reaction would tap this reacting minion, would I be tapped? I
> assume no as this is part of the resolution of the card.
>
No, since the card has no effect.
> In terms of an action. Would you be tapped?
>
>
No, since you don't perform the action.
> If not, would you be able to play another copy of the same action card
> again (again, I assume no).
>
Yes, since you never performed the action.
> If yes, could you play a Superior Freak Drive to untap as the action
> was unsuccessful.
>
Moot.
Archie
Archibald Zimonyi wrote:
> Slytherin wrote:
> > Veil of Darkness is in play.
> >
> > My first discipline card is either a reaction or action mod. I show a
> > Master and this card fails. Can I play the same one again if I have
> > another copy in my hand (I assume no, but would like to check).
> >
> No, the card is played but simply has no effect.
>
> > If a reaction would tap this reacting minion, would I be tapped? I
> > assume no as this is part of the resolution of the card.
> >
> No, since the card has no effect.
>
> > In terms of an action. Would you be tapped?
> >
> >
> No, since you don't perform the action.
>
> > If not, would you be able to play another copy of the same action card
> > again (again, I assume no).
> >
> Yes, since you never performed the action.
>
> > If yes, could you play a Superior Freak Drive to untap as the action
> > was unsuccessful.
> >
> Moot.
Correct.
LSJ wrote:
> Archibald Zimonyi wrote:
> > Slytherin wrote:
> > > If not, would you be able to play another copy of the same action card
> > > again (again, I assume no).
> > >
> > Yes, since you never performed the action.> Correct.
How come the action card doesn't count as being played by the minion?
Or is it that a minion can't attempt the action twice, and in this
case, he never attempted/performed the action, and so therefore can
again?
Andy
In message <1152002393....@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com>,
Slytherin <an...@operamail.com> writes:
<snip - Veil of Darkness cancelling an action card>
>How come the action card doesn't count as being played by the minion?
It does.
>Or is it that a minion can't attempt the action twice, and in this
>case, he never attempted/performed the action, and so therefore can
>again?
No Repeat Actions kicks in at resolution (successful or otherwise).
The same minion can initiate the same action with the same card several
times a turn, so long as he doesn't allow the action to resolve whilst
he's acting. The usual way to manage this is with Mask of a Thousand
Faces, or a similar action mover, but there are other ways.
Sheldon bleeds with Computer Hacking. Selma Masks. Selma bleeds, and
is tainted against taking any more bleed actions and any more Computer
Hacking actions. Sheldon now bleeds again, and can play Computer
Hacking if he wants to, because he hasn't performed a Computer Hacking
action this turn - the previous attempt was performed by Selma.
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Although it's moot for this situation, as stated above, it's worth
noting that superior Freak Drive is only usable when blocked. If your
action is unsuccessful for some reason other than being blocked, you
can't play it.
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James Coupe skrev:
> In message <1152002393....@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com>,
> Slytherin <an...@operamail.com> writes:
> <snip - Veil of Darkness cancelling an action card>
> >How come the action card doesn't count as being played by the minion?
>
> It does.
>
> >Or is it that a minion can't attempt the action twice, and in this
> >case, he never attempted/performed the action, and so therefore can
> >again?
>
> No Repeat Actions kicks in at resolution (successful or otherwise).
>
> The same minion can initiate the same action with the same card several
> times a turn, so long as he doesn't allow the action to resolve whilst
> he's acting. The usual way to manage this is with Mask of a Thousand
> Faces, or a similar action mover, but there are other ways.
>
> Sheldon bleeds with Computer Hacking. Selma Masks. Selma bleeds, and
> is tainted against taking any more bleed actions and any more Computer
> Hacking actions. Sheldon now bleeds again, and can play Computer
> Hacking if he wants to, because he hasn't performed a Computer Hacking
> action this turn - the previous attempt was performed by Selma.
>
> --
> James Coupe
Hi. Is this covered in the rulebook, so I can refer to it? Questions
like this pop up once in a while, and is always hard to explain to
newbies. And others :)
as...@hotmail.com wrote:
> Hi. Is this covered in the rulebook, so I can refer to it? Questions
> like this pop up once in a while, and is always hard to explain to
> newbies. And others :)
The rule is given in the rulebook, yes.
The prohibition against action-card actions is
http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/rulebook/rulebook.html#sec6_1_6
"A minion cannot perform an action with the same action card or via the
same card in play (including from the minion's own card text) more than
once each turn, even if he untaps."
(Note that the restriction is based on performing the action, not
playing the action card.)
The prohibition on reaction cards and action modifiers is
http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/rulebook/rulebook.html#sec1_6_3
"A minion cannot play the same action modifier more than once during a
single action." and "A minion cannot play the same reaction card more
than once during a single action."
(Note that the restriction is based on playing tha card.)