LSJ~
Ublo Satha (the gargoyle), equiped with a sniper rifle, blocks Calien (the
Nosferatu Archbishop who can set range), who has modified his action with
Gang Tactics.
Because of Gang Tactics, range is set to short. Can Ublo Satha set range to
long with his sniper rifle? Can Calien set it back with his special ability?
Can Ublo Satha set it back again with High Ground?
~Shankar Gupta
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Card text on GT: "Other effects cannot change this"
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"Shankar Gupta" <shanka...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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For future reference, acting minion always get the first option on
everything.
That means:
-Declaring Manuevers
-Declaring Strikes
-Setting Range
-Playing Amaranth before you can play Undead Persistance.
-Playing Decapitate before you can play Undead Persistance.
-Playing a Weather Control before you can play a Skin of Night.
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XZealot
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XZealot wrote:
:: That means:
:: -Playing a Weather Control before you can play a Skin of Night.
yeah, and what does it change ? the damage can still be changed to normal if
they were aggravated. =)
"reyda" <true_...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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I don't know if that is actually true. I saw a player blow himself up in
the last tournament by playing the weather control before he played the skin
of night. He thought that if he had played them in reverse order that he
would have been okay. Instead he played Weather control First, then played
the Skin of Night.
It was my understanding that Weather Control's damage is a special case and
happens when the card is played. LSJ? As such Skin of Night says "for the
remainder of the remainder of the round", so if you played Weather Control
before you played Skin of Night under a Dawn Operation then the acting
vampire blows himself up.
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XZealot wrote:
> It was my understanding that Weather Control's damage is a special case and
> happens when the card is played. LSJ?
Moot, but no. WC sets up an effect which is to be applied "before range is
determined each round", by card text.
> As such Skin of Night says "for the
> remainder of the remainder of the round", so if you played Weather Control
> before you played Skin of Night under a Dawn Operation then the acting
> vampire blows himself up.
Not true. Damage application and damage handling are done in sequence
(allowing for damage prevention, Skin of Night, etc.)
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You imply that the acting vampuire can also play Undead PersistEnce before
you can play Amaranth or Decapitate...not my understanding. LSJ?
Timlagor wrote:
> You imply that the acting vampuire can also play Undead PersistEnce before
> you can play Amaranth or Decapitate...not my understanding. LSJ?
It's true.
Google: "Undead Persistence Amaranth author:LSJ"
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In article <3EE74E2D...@white-wolf.com>, vte...@white-wolf.com
says...
> Shankar Gupta wrote:
> > LSJ~
> >
> > Ublo Satha (the gargoyle), equiped with a sniper rifle, blocks Calien (the
> > Nosferatu Archbishop who can set range), who has modified his action with
> > Gang Tactics.
> >
> > Because of Gang Tactics, range is set to short. Can Ublo Satha set range to
> > long with his sniper rifle? Can Calien set it back with his special ability?
> > Can Ublo Satha set it back again with High Ground?
>
> Card text on GT: "Other effects cannot change this"
Searched for a reversal, but I couldn't find one... I thought once
range was set "first", it could not be re-set (no specific card text
needed).
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-Snapcase
Snapcase wrote:
> In article <3EE74E2D...@white-wolf.com>, vte...@white-wolf.com
> says...>>Card text on GT: "Other effects cannot change this">
> Searched for a reversal, but I couldn't find one... I thought once
> range was set "first", it could not be re-set (no specific card text
> needed).
Correct. But the fact that card text also answers the question is
sufficient. See also Wake vs. Continue Action as if unblocked.
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"LSJ" <vte...@white-wolf.com> wrote in message
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> XZealot wrote:
> > It was my understanding that Weather Control's damage is a special case
and
> > happens when the card is played. LSJ?
>
> Moot, but no. WC sets up an effect which is to be applied "before range is
> determined each round", by card text.
>
> > As such Skin of Night says "for the
> > remainder of the remainder of the round", so if you played Weather Control
> > before you played Skin of Night under a Dawn Operation then the acting
> > vampire blows himself up.
>
> Not true. Damage application and damage handling are done in sequence
> (allowing for damage prevention, Skin of Night, etc.)
If I understand this correctly, a damage resolution step [6.4.6]
exists for Weather Control damage, even though it's not during
strike resolution. The placement of the "Damage Resolution"
section in the rulebook might seem to imply that it's only
talking about damage from strikes, but it makes sense that in
fact it covers all damage in combat - any time damage is taken,
even if it's not preventable, you get the two steps of "prevent
damage" and "heal damage". So a non-active Methuselah could
play Skin of Night before getting to the point where you try
to heal Weather Control damage, even though the active
Methuselah can sequence (I believe) the Weather Control damage
to occur immediately after playing the Weather Control card.
Josh
quel dommage!