Seven Questions

Hi. Here are some old and new rule-questions. Thanks in advance for answering. 1. IMMORTAL GRAPPLE and GHOUL RETAINER. Is it possible for a Minion with a GR, that the Retainer uses i. e. a Gun against the opposing Minion who played IG? 2. CARRION CROWS, GHOUL RETAINER, WOLF COMPANIN etc. and PULLED FANGS. Is the damage from CC, GR, WC dealt by the minion? So, is it possible to play PF after doing 2 damage (hand strike for 1 + CC inferior)[when the opposing minion does only one or less]? 3. During the last tournament a player wanted to play a Master:Skill on an uncontrolled vampire, because of card text "play on a vampire". Is this possible? 4. A minion played both UNDEAD PERSISTENCE and IG. He has two optional presses. Can he use one to press for second round and safe the other to press later for third round? 5. Is it possible to play more than one Trap each round for more than one press or to get rid of cards? 6. Is it possible to prevent 2 points of damage with two SKIN OF ROCK inferior? 7. Lucian is bleeding with Bonding, Sir Walter Nash is tapped but plays 2nd Tradition. Can he play now DEFLECTION instead of blocking, when Lucian plays no more stealth? Greetings.

Prince of Berlin wrote: > > Hi. Here are some old and new rule-questions. Thanks in advance for > answering. > > 1. IMMORTAL GRAPPLE and GHOUL RETAINER. Is it possible for a Minion > with a GR, that the Retainer uses i. e. a Gun against the opposing > Minion who played IG? Yes. > 2. CARRION CROWS, GHOUL RETAINER, WOLF COMPANIN etc. and PULLED FANGS. > Is the damage from CC, GR, WC dealt by the minion? So, is it possible > to play PF after doing 2 damage (hand strike for 1 + CC inferior)[when > the opposing minion does only one or less]? No to all three. So, no. > 3. During the last tournament a player wanted to play a Master:Skill > on an uncontrolled vampire, because of card text "play on a vampire". > Is this possible? No, because of the rules [1.6.1.5] > 4. A minion played both UNDEAD PERSISTENCE and IG. He has two optional > presses. Can he use one to press for second round and safe the other > to press later for third round? No. Effects of combat cards apply only to the current round by default. > 5. Is it possible to play more than one Trap each round for more than > one press or to get rid of cards? Yes, but only on the first round. > 6. Is it possible to prevent 2 points of damage with two SKIN OF ROCK > inferior? Yes. > 7. Lucian is bleeding with Bonding, Sir Walter Nash is tapped but > plays 2nd Tradition. Can he play now DEFLECTION instead of blocking, > when Lucian plays no more stealth? No. He must attempt to block by card text on 2nd Tradition. -- LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc. Links to revised rulebook, rulings, errata, and tournament rules: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/

In message <8f9f4861.0107...@posting.google.com>, Prince of Berlin <kribs...@hotmail.com> writes >1. IMMORTAL GRAPPLE and GHOUL RETAINER. Is it possible for a Minion >with a GR, that the Retainer uses i. e. a Gun against the opposing >Minion who played IG? Yes. The GR isn't striking, it's just doing damage. >2. CARRION CROWS, GHOUL RETAINER, WOLF COMPANIN etc. and PULLED FANGS. >Is the damage from CC, GR, WC dealt by the minion? No. > So, is it possible >to play PF after doing 2 damage (hand strike for 1 + CC inferior)[when >the opposing minion does only one or less]? No. >3. During the last tournament a player wanted to play a Master:Skill >on an uncontrolled vampire, because of card text "play on a vampire". >Is this possible? No. By default, all cards must be played on controlled, uncontested vampires. >4. A minion played both UNDEAD PERSISTENCE and IG. He has two optional >presses. Can he use one to press for second round and safe the other >to press later for third round? No. The default for all effects generated in combat is that they expire at the end of the round, unless otherwise stated. >5. Is it possible to play more than one Trap each round for more than >one press or to get rid of cards? You can play more than one on the first round, certainly. You cannot play them on other rounds (card text). >6. Is it possible to prevent 2 points of damage with two SKIN OF ROCK >inferior? Yes. You prevent one with the first, you prevent one with the second. >7. Lucian is bleeding with Bonding, Sir Walter Nash is tapped but >plays 2nd Tradition. Can he play now DEFLECTION instead of blocking, >when Lucian plays no more stealth? No. He must attempt to block. When in a block attempt, you cannot back out (unless you fail to generate enough stealth etc.) -- James Coupe PGP Key: 0x5D623D5D EBD690ECD7A1F HEY, MOM! I FOUND SOME OF THOSE PEOPLE ON THE INTERNET B457CA213D7E6 YOU WERE TELLING ME TO NOT TALK TO! 68C3695D623D5D

"Prince of Berlin" <kribs...@hotmail.com> > Hi. Here are some old and new rule-questions. Thanks in advance for > answering. (snip) > 4. A minion played both UNDEAD PERSISTENCE and IG. He has two optional > presses. Can he use one to press for second round and safe the other > to press later for third round? (snip) > 6. Is it possible to prevent 2 points of damage with two SKIN OF ROCK > inferior? > > 7. Lucian is bleeding with Bonding, Sir Walter Nash is tapped but > plays 2nd Tradition. Can he play now DEFLECTION instead of blocking, > when Lucian plays no more stealth? oh my ! i don't want to interfere, but it is really the VEKN Prince of Berlin who's asking those questions ? there is no requirement for being a prince ? How can a prince who doesn't know this kind of basic knowledge run tournaments, or serve as a judge during tournaments ? LSJ ? Hey ! I can be a prince too ;) reyda

In message <9k7jk1$42f$1...@neon.noos.net>, Reyda <re...@noos.fr> writes >i don't want to interfere, but it is really the VEKN Prince of Berlin who's >asking those questions ? there is no requirement for being a prince ? How >can a prince who doesn't know this kind of basic knowledge run tournaments, >or serve as a judge during tournaments ? LSJ ? The prince doesn't have to be head judge, though this can be useful. [ quoted text not captured ]

Reyda wrote: > asking those questions ? there is no requirement for being a prince ? How > can a prince who doesn't know this kind of basic knowledge run tournaments, > or serve as a judge during tournaments ? LSJ ? > Hey ! I can be a prince too ;) Anyone who would like to be the coordinator/promoter of V:TES in his or her area can be a prince. Criticizing a volunteer who does his job (and, in this case, seems to be actively seeking to improve his ability to promote the game) doesn't seem very productive. If there's no prince in your area and you'd like to volunteer to do the work, we'd be happy to have you. See the web page for further information. [ quoted text not captured ]

"LSJ" <vte...@white-wolf.com> > Anyone who would like to be the coordinator/promoter of V:TES in his or her > area can be a prince. Criticizing a volunteer who does his job (and, in this > case, seems to be actively seeking to improve his ability to promote the game) > doesn't seem very productive. Just a reply to precise : I didn't want to harm anyone. If it sounded as bad behaviour,all my apologies to the concerned person. i was just assuming that, to be a prince, you had to master all the basic rules of jyhad. I was not being aware of what being a prince means. I just asked, in my casual manner. > If there's no prince in your area and you'd like to volunteer to do the > work, we'd be happy to have you. See the web page for further information. I'll check ! but i live in paris, and there's a Prince of Paris already ;) so may i apply for an other title like Prince of Pere Lachaise instead ? Again, i was just suprised, thinking that a prince was supposed to know the basic rules. I will never blame anyone for asking rules questions : this is what this forum is here for, i think ! if not here, where could we have LSJ's logical and pondered answers ?

"Reyda" <re...@noos.fr> a écrit dans le message news: 9k8u8n$b6l$1...@hadron.noos.net... > I'll check ! but i live in paris, and there's a Prince of Paris already ;) > so may i apply for an other title like Prince of Pere Lachaise instead ? Reyda!! Don't you dare apply for the title of Shock Troops leader, also known as Papy Shock Troops! I own it already ;-) or maybe you could set up a conspiracy to deprieve the Prince of his title?? some kind of evil plot bred over the centuries...;-) Stone

"Stone" <mc_judg...@yahoo.fr> > > "Reyda" <re...@noos.fr> > > > I'll check ! but i live in paris, and there's a Prince of Paris already ;) > > so may i apply for an other title like Prince of Pere Lachaise instead ? > > Reyda!! Don't you dare apply for the title of Shock Troops leader, also > known as Papy Shock Troops! I own it already ;-) > or maybe you could set up a conspiracy to deprieve the Prince of his title?? > some kind of evil plot bred over the centuries...;-) > Stone Hmmm... I'd rather try to become Archbishop of Paris, or try to steal Clebros's title since he can't block me... Hey, i remember i should then forfeit my old title : i'm the Harpy of the ParisVekn -i write tournament reports and thing...