LSJ Orlando and Gerald

Hi, Is Gerald's ability considered a multiplier 'played on your vampires' as per Orlando's text ? Thanks, John Orlando Oriundus Clan: Tremere antitribu (group 4) Capacity: 9 Disciplines: AUS DOM THA obf Sabbat bishop: During a referendum, if Orlando is ready, your vampires' votes are doubled when votes are tallied, and other multipliers may not be played on your vampires. +1 bleed. Gerald Windham Clan: Tremere (group 5) Capacity: 9 Disciplines: AUS DOM FOR THA Camarilla: If Gerald has no title, he gets an additional vote for each ready titled vampire controlled by other Methuselahs. +1 stealth.

On 24 avr, 15:28, bingotclown <sin...@hotmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > > Is Gerald's ability considered a multiplier 'played on your vampires' > as per Orlando's text ? > > Thanks, i - It doesn't multiply anything, it merely adds him 1 vote n times. ii - "multiplier" is a card trait. See Hall of Hades' Court. Gerald doesn't have that trait. (which is funny, because Orlando's text refers to "other" multipliers albeit isn't one)

On Apr 24, 10:40 am, floppyzedolfin <floppyzedol...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 24 avr, 15:28, bingotclown <sin...@hotmail.com> wrote: > > > Hi, > > > Is Gerald's ability considered a multiplier 'played on your vampires' > > as per Orlando's text ? > > > Thanks, > > i - It doesn't multiply anything, it merely adds him 1 vote n times. > ii - "multiplier" is a card trait. See Hall of Hades' Court. Gerald > doesn't have that trait. (which is funny, because Orlando's text > refers to "other" multipliers albeit isn't one) Correct.

Ah, I was reading multiplier as modifier... Doh! Either way I didn't know multiplier was a card trait so that's good to know too. Thanks John

As something of a follow-up question, does Orlando's card text double the votes Gerald gains from his own card text, or does it multiply his basic votes (which are zero unless there are other titled vampires in play)? It would seem logical that the multiplier is added last, since it applies "when votes are tallied" and thus takes effect after any other modifiers have been played, but it never hurts to be too sure. (on a side note, if you put out both of these guys and try to play politics with neither of them having Presence, I'd love to see your deck!). Merci, Francis.

On Apr 25, 7:21 pm, Francis Plamondon <francis.plamon...@gmail.com> wrote: > As something of a follow-up question, does Orlando's card text double > the votes Gerald gains from his own card text, or does it multiply his > basic votes (which are zero unless there are other titled vampires in > play)? It would seem logical that the multiplier is added last, since > it applies "when votes are tallied" and thus takes effect after any > other modifiers have been played, but it never hurts to be too sure. The multiplier is indeed applied last. and it doubles all the votes your vampires gain by any means, not just titled votes. > > (on a side note, if you put out both of these guys and try to play > politics with neither of them having Presence, I'd love to see your > deck!). > > Merci, > Francis. bah, Presence votepush is overrated! :) though it does cost a lot of pool and turns just to bring out those two vamps together.