Question about Temptation (LSJ)

During my minion phase the number of counters on a temptation card equals or exceeds the amount of blood on the target vampire. (Emerson Bridges for this example) So, i burn all the counters on this card to untap Emerson Bridges and take control of him until the end of my turn. During that turn, i use Emerson Bridges to bleed and play a Day Operation. So, the poor ventrue is in torpor after the bleed. My question is : Where Emerson Bridges go after the end of my turn ? He stay in my torpor and is mine or he go in my prey torpor ? And the same question can be asked for Mind Rape. -- Richard Labrecque Also know has :Khaleph Alendis, VEKN Setite Prince of Beauport http://www.oricom.ca/melkor/khaleph/ Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/

As always, and forever, IANALSJ, but I will give it a swing. Khaleph Alendis wrote: > > During my minion phase the number of counters on a temptation card > equals or exceeds the amount of blood on the target vampire. (Emerson > Bridges for this example) > > So, i burn all the counters on this card to untap Emerson Bridges and > take control of him until the end of my turn. > > During that turn, i use Emerson Bridges to bleed and play a Day > Operation. So, the poor ventrue is in torpor after the bleed. > > My question is : > > Where Emerson Bridges go after the end of my turn ? > He stay in my torpor and is mine No. > or he go in my prey torpor ? Yes. > > And the same question can be asked for Mind Rape. > > -- Richard Labrecque > Also know has :Khaleph Alendis, > VEKN Setite Prince of Beauport > http://www.oricom.ca/melkor/khaleph/ > > Sent via Deja.com > http://www.deja.com/ Chris -- chris <www.vtesinla.org> (A V:TES site in development) ultimate disc - V:TES - hockey v:ekn prince of torrance, ca

Chris Shorb <chr...@vtesinla.org> wrote: > Khaleph Alendis wrote: > > During my minion phase the number of counters on a temptation card > > equals or exceeds the amount of blood on the target vampire. > > (Emerson Bridges for this example) > > > > So, i burn all the counters on this card to untap Emerson Bridges > > and take control of him until the end of my turn. > > > > During that turn, i use Emerson Bridges to bleed and play a Day > > Operation. So, the poor ventrue is in torpor after the bleed. > > > > My question is : > > > > Where Emerson Bridges go after the end of my turn ? > > He stay in my torpor and is mine > > No. > > > or he go in my prey torpor ? > > Yes. Correct. > > And the same question can be asked for Mind Rape. Same answers. You can still lose control of a vampire (or have control revert to previous, whatever) when it is in torpor. -- LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) VTES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc. Links to revised rulebook, rulings, errata, and tournament rules: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/