Rulemongies - Can you contest you own cards ?

Here's a question on contesting your own cards... If I have a vampire in play and I have that vampire in my inactive region as well, is it allowed to bring out the second version of the vampire and yield the first version? Can I yield right away or do I have to wait until my next untap? If this is not allowed would it be allowed if the first version of the vampire was in my torpor region? This may seem a pointless thing to do but it could be useful to get a good small vampire up to full blood quickly, or to replace a vampire in torpor with a Haven Uncovered on it. Ian

[ quoted text not captured ] You can bring out a second copy regardless of the status of the first. Both will then be contested. On your next untap, you choose to yield or contest each of them individually. You pay one pool for each that you choose to contest and burn each that your yield. On your *following* untap (assuming you have the only copy of the vampire left in contention), then he is turned face-up, untapped, and placed in the ready area (active or in Torpor, as appropriate). -- L. Scott Johnson (sjoh...@math.sc.edu) | It's not the same when I'm http://www.math.sc.edu/cgi-bin/sjohnson/home | not in the holodeck Graphics Specialist and V:tES Rulemonger. | - Riker

In article <19961202222...@ladder01.news.aol.com>, ianb...@aol.com wrote: >Here's a question on contesting your own cards... > >If I have a vampire in play and I have that vampire in my inactive region >as well, is it allowed to bring out the second version of the vampire and >yield the first version? Can I yield right away or do I have to wait >until my next untap? If this is not allowed would it be allowed if the >first version of the vampire was in my torpor region? This may seem a >pointless thing to do but it could be useful to get a good small vampire >up to full blood quickly, or to replace a vampire in torpor with a Haven >Uncovered on it. > >Ian Yes. It was certainly allowed under the Jyhad rules and I assume its the same under V:tES Peter

In article <5819sc$6...@redwood.cs.sc.edu>, sjoh...@math.scarolina.edu (L. Scott Johnson) writes: >On your *following* untap (assuming you have the only copy of the vampire >left in contention), then he is turned face-up, untapped, and placed in the >ready area (active or in Torpor, as appropriate). > > Wow ... I thought whatever the contest, when somebody yielded a card the other contested card comes into play immediately. So contested cards can only come back into play on your untap if no longer contested ? Ian

[ quoted text not captured ] Yes. Section 15 (VtES rulebook): "If a previously contested card ceases to be contested, you return the card to the active region, face up and untapped, during your next untap phase." [ quoted text not captured ]

In article <58h6st$3...@redwood.cs.sc.edu>, sjoh...@math.scarolina.edu (L. Scott Johnson) writes: >>Wow ... I thought whatever the contest, when somebody yielded a card the >>other contested card comes into play immediately. So contested cards can >>only come back into play on your untap if no longer contested ? > >Yes. > >Section 15 (VtES rulebook): > "If a previously contested card ceases to be contested, you return the card > to the active region, face up and untapped, during your next untap phase." Whoops, siily me - well I don't read the VTES rulebook for goodness sake ! Ian

ianb...@aol.com writes: >Whoops, siily me - well I don't read the VTES rulebook for goodness sake ! Equivalent text exists in the Jyhad rulebook (section 8): "If your contested card is the only contested card not being yielded, you turn it face up and move it into play, untapped, at the start of your turn." -- L. Scott Johnson (sjoh...@math.sc.edu) | * <-- Tribble http://www.math.sc.edu/cgi-bin/sjohnson/home | o <-- Jean-Luc Tribble [ quoted text not captured ]