It's probably been answered a million times, but if a Bane Mummy
recruit action is blocked, the Bane Mummy card is burned - but does it
go to the ash heap or back into the library? Does the "if *blah* is
burned, shuffle back into your library" text only apply when the Bane
Mummy is in play - or all the time?
In message <1fc59b3a.01070...@posting.google.com>, Dave Tait
<d...@st-and.ac.uk> writes
>Does the "if *blah* is
>burned, shuffle back into your library" text only apply when the Bane
>Mummy is in play - or all the time?
The card text only applies when in play, or if it were to specifically
say otherwise. (None do, currently, to the best of my knowledge.)
Compare with Wake's "Do not replace until your next untap phase". Could
be fun when you discard it in your discard phase.
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James Coupe wrote:
> In message <1fc59b3a.01070...@posting.google.com>, Dave Tait
> <d...@st-and.ac.uk> writes
> >Does the "if *blah* is
> >burned, shuffle back into your library" text only apply when the Bane
> >Mummy is in play - or all the time?
>
> The card text only applies when in play, or if it were to specifically
> say otherwise.
Correct.
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Hey Dave,
> [...] if a Bane Mummy recruit action is blocked, the Bane Mummy card is> burned - but does it go to the ash heap or back into the library? Does
> the "if *blah* is burned, shuffle back into your library" text only apply
> when the Bane Mummy is in play - or all the time?
This is a semantic issue. The term 'burned' means only one thing, ie.
the card being placed in your ash heap. It is irrelevant what kind of
effect causes the burning, since the rules do not differentiate. In
fact, the rules state:
6.1.5 Recruit Ally (+1 stealth)
[...]
"If the action is unsuccessful, the card is burned [...]"
As the Golden Rule should apply here (the card text is right), and as
the rules don't really contradict the card text in any way, but rather
back it up (using the term 'burned' to denote the card's placing in
the ash heap; the card using the term 'burned' to denote its
re-routing to your library), I'd think it is a pretty clear-cut case.
Burning means only one thing; no contradictory evidence exists to
suggest otherwise. I'd be happy to be enlightened to the opposite,
though.
Unless LSJ issues a contradictory official ruling, I'd think your
Setite deck just got a little bit harder. Speaking of which, I have an
Amam Bane Mummy to trade/give you when I get back to StA; and since
we're on the subject of StA, I hope V:tS is going well, and everybody
is content and enjoying the summer. Send me a mail, willya? :-)
Alex T-B [aka Michelangelo/Lazarus/Orlando/Bishop/Elliot]
In message <798d5cca.01070...@posting.google.com>, Alex T-B
<al...@vampirethemasquerade.com> writes
>This is a semantic issue. The term 'burned' means only one thing
Indeed.
However, the action did not resolve successfully - hence, the "if
burned" clause does not apply, since it never resolved.
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On Fri, 6 Jul 2001 16:50:31 +0100, James Coupe <ja...@zephyr.org.uk>
wrote:
>In message <798d5cca.01070...@posting.google.com>, Alex T-B
><al...@vampirethemasquerade.com> writes>>This is a semantic issue. The term 'burned' means only one thing>
>Indeed.
>
>However, the action did not resolve successfully - hence, the "if
>burned" clause does not apply, since it never resolved.
>
You did not verify his post. When the action to recruit an ally is
unsuccessful, the ally you are trying to recruit is BURNED according
to the rulebook.
In message <3b45ed68....@news.flrtn1.occa.home.com>, Jack Crow
<no...@nowhere.com> writes
>>However, the action did not resolve successfully - hence, the "if
>>burned" clause does not apply, since it never resolved.
>>>You did not verify his post. When the action to recruit an ally is
>unsuccessful, the ally you are trying to recruit is BURNED according
>to the rulebook.
It is.
However, no card text has resolved to require/allow it to do anything
other than go into your ash-heap, per the default rules.
[ quoted text not captured ]
Hey.
> > The card text only applies when in play, or if it were to specifically
> > say otherwise.> Correct.
Damn. Is there any section in the rules that specifies 'variant' card
text only applying to in-play mechanics, or is it a generally accepted
given?
Damn again. Google seems to have swallowed my first posting (making -
in retrospect - false claims :).
Thanks, though.
Alex