LSJ: Some more questions from our league

1. If Samantha uses a Meat Cleaver, is the +1 damage the MC inflicts agg? What if Badger strikes Meat Cleaver, then plays Wolf Claws? 2. Can the Black Spiral Buddy (or any ally) play Channeling the Beast - i.e. cards that do not require disciplines but do require a blood (life?) cost. This is of course not counting those allies that have special text indicating that they can play cards of a discipline and the cost if any of those cards is payed with life. 3. I play Carrion Crows. He plays S:CE. Does his minion still take 1 pt. damage? I think not. 4. If the Bonecraft's 1 damage is prevented, is the rest of the effect of the card in effect (the -1/-2 hand damage)? 5. Can Bonecraft cause a vampire to go to -1 hand damage (or more?). I assume multiple Bonecrafts cause multiples of the -1/-2 hand damage. Thanks, Chris -- Chris Shorb & Tammy Martin ino...@ix.netcom.com "It was Tuesday. That meant steak-and- suspicious-organs pie at the Thieves' Guild... On the whole, he reflected, it could have been a lot worse." Pratchett

In article <35C27116...@ix.netcom.com>, Chris Shorb & Tammy Martin <ino...@ix.netcom.com> writes >1. If Samantha uses a Meat Cleaver, is the +1 damage the MC >inflicts agg? No. Samanta makes hand damage aggravated. Meat Cleaver damage is based on hand damage but is converted to weapon damage. > What if Badger strikes Meat Cleaver, then >plays Wolf Claws? No, as above. Exchange Wolf Claws for Samantha. > >2. Can the Black Spiral Buddy (or any ally) play Channeling >the Beast - i.e. cards that do not require disciplines but >do require a blood (life?) cost. No, allies have life not blood so can't play blood costs. That's why the "special" allies have the wording they do. > >3. I play Carrion Crows. He plays S:CE. Does his minion >still take 1 pt. damage? I think not. > He doesn't take the damage. Carrion Crows resolves like Wolf Companion which waits until normal (non Dodge, non S:CE and, I think, none First Strike) strikes resolve. >4. If the Bonecraft's 1 damage is prevented, is the rest of >the effect of the card in effect (the -1/-2 hand damage)? > Not sure. Have to leave it for LSJ. >5. Can Bonecraft cause a vampire to go to -1 hand damage >(or more?). I assume multiple Bonecrafts cause multiples of >the -1/-2 hand damage. > Yes, it can, I think (not so sure) but it doesn't *give* you blood. It would be treated as 0 damage when a strike resolved but would actually be -whatever for purposes of raising it back up. -- James Coupe (Prince of Mercia) Change nospam to obeah to reply Vampire: Elder Kindred Network madnessnetwork.hexagon.net

In article <kwRak1A3$zw1...@obeah.demon.co.uk>, James Coupe <ve...@nospam.demon.co.uk> wrote: >>4. If the Bonecraft's 1 damage is prevented, is the rest of >>the effect of the card in effect (the -1/-2 hand damage)? >Not sure. Have to leave it for LSJ. Yes, per the ruling on Pulled Fangs (if it's prevented, the no-hunt is still in effect). >>5. Can Bonecraft cause a vampire to go to -1 hand damage >>(or more?). I assume multiple Bonecrafts cause multiples of >>the -1/-2 hand damage. >Yes, it can, I think (not so sure) but it doesn't *give* you blood. It >would be treated as 0 damage when a strike resolved but would actually >be -whatever for purposes of raising it back up. Exactly. If a minon is at (say) -2 hand damage, it would need a superior Torn Signpost to get up to 1. Permanent -X hand damage is ultranasty for Potence decks. gomi

In article <kwRak1A3$zw1...@obeah.demon.co.uk>, James Coupe <ve...@nospam.demon.co.uk> wrote: > In article <35C27116...@ix.netcom.com>, Chris Shorb & Tammy Martin > <ino...@ix.netcom.com> writes > >1. If Samantha uses a Meat Cleaver, is the +1 damage the MC > >inflicts agg? > > No. Samanta makes hand damage aggravated. Meat Cleaver damage is based > on hand damage but is converted to weapon damage. I'd say "... but is melee wepaon damage" (not "converted"), but essentially correct. > > What if Badger strikes Meat Cleaver, then > >plays Wolf Claws? > > No, as above. Exchange Wolf Claws for Samantha. Correct. > >2. Can the Black Spiral Buddy (or any ally) play Channeling > >the Beast - i.e. cards that do not require disciplines but > >do require a blood (life?) cost. > > No, allies have life not blood so can't play blood costs. That's why > the "special" allies have the wording they do. Correct. > >3. I play Carrion Crows. He plays S:CE. Does his minion > >still take 1 pt. damage? I think not. > > He doesn't take the damage. Carrion Crows resolves like Wolf Companion > which waits until normal (non Dodge, non S:CE and, I think, none First > Strike) strikes resolve. It resolves when the strike of the vampire who played it resolves. If this is at first strike, then so be it. But, if either (or both) minions S:CE, the resolve strike step is ended "before any damage is dealt". > >4. If the Bonecraft's 1 damage is prevented, is the rest of > >the effect of the card in effect (the -1/-2 hand damage)? Yes. Preventing damage doesn't prevent the other (non-damage) part of the strike. A Dodge will prevent the whole business, however. > >5. Can Bonecraft cause a vampire to go to -1 hand damage > >(or more?). I assume multiple Bonecrafts cause multiples of > >the -1/-2 hand damage. > > Yes, it can, I think (not so sure) but it doesn't *give* you blood. It > would be treated as 0 damage when a strike resolved but would actually > be -whatever for purposes of raising it back up. Correct, nice work. -- L. Scott Johnson (vte...@wizards.com) VTES Net.Rep for Wizards of the Coast. Searchable database of official card text, errata, and rulings: http://deckserver.net/cgi-deckserver/rulemonger.cgi/powersearch -----== Posted via Deja News, The Leader in Internet Discussion ==----- http://www.dejanews.com/rg_mkgrp.xp Create Your Own Free Member Forum