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Ghoul Retainer Plus First Strike

5 messages from 5 participants · 09 May 2007
original thread on Google Groups

Jeff Kuta

Fatima has much blood, a Ghoul Retainer, an Ivory Bow and Assault Rifle. She gets into combat and uses Shadow Feint at OBF/CEL giving her First Strike. Her opponent is a vampire with 3 blood. Fatima stays at close range and chooses to use the Ivory Bow. The Ghoul uses the Assault Rifle. What happens? A. The opposing vampire goes to torpor with 3 blood because the Ivory Bow damage is resolved immediately at first strike. B. The opposing vampire burns because he doesn't have enough blood to heal the normal damage, so the aggravated damage burns him. Fatima stays at close range and chooses to use the Assault Rifle. The Ghoul uses the Ivory Bow. What happens? A. The opposing vampire goes to torpor with 0 blood because the Assault Rifle damage is resolved immediately at first strike. B. The opposing vampire burns because he doesn't have enough blood to heal the normal damage, so the aggravated damage burns him. Further question, is there any way at all to make Shadow Feint more useful for burning a vampire in this situation? Doesn't appear so. It seems the main advantage to first strike in this scenario is to allow Fatima to avoid taking damage since effects happen at first strike. Jeff

LSJ

Jeff Kuta wrote: > Fatima has much blood, a Ghoul Retainer, an Ivory Bow and Assault > Rifle. She gets into combat and uses Shadow Feint at OBF/CEL giving > her First Strike. Her opponent is a vampire with 3 blood. > > Fatima stays at close range and chooses to use the Ivory Bow. The > Ghoul uses the Assault Rifle. What happens? > > A. The opposing vampire goes to torpor with 3 blood because the Ivory > Bow damage is resolved immediately at first strike. > B. The opposing vampire burns because he doesn't have enough blood to > heal the normal damage, so the aggravated damage burns him. A. > Fatima stays at close range and chooses to use the Assault Rifle. The > Ghoul uses the Ivory Bow. What happens? > > A. The opposing vampire goes to torpor with 0 blood because the > Assault Rifle damage is resolved immediately at first strike. > B. The opposing vampire burns because he doesn't have enough blood to > heal the normal damage, so the aggravated damage burns him. A. > Further question, is there any way at all to make Shadow Feint more > useful for burning a vampire in this situation? Doesn't appear so. It > seems the main advantage to first strike in this scenario is to allow > Fatima to avoid taking damage since effects happen at first strike. That is the primary advantage of First Strike in most cases, yes.

Wookie813

>Jeff Kuta wrote: > Fatima has much blood, a Ghoul Retainer, an Ivory Bow and Assault > Rifle. She gets into combat and uses Shadow Feint at OBF/CEL giving > her First Strike. > Fatima stays at close range and chooses to use the Ivory Bow. The > Ghoul uses the Assault Rifle. What happens? > A. The opposing vampire goes to torpor with 3 blood because the Ivory > Bow damage is resolved immediately at first strike. > B. The opposing vampire burns because he doesn't have enough blood to > heal the normal damage, so the aggravated damage burns him. >To which LSJ replied: >A. Does this mean that Fats strikes with First Strike but the Ghoul Retainer strikes in the normal strike phase?

John Flournoy

[ quoted text not captured ] Yes. -John Flournoy

gpett...@gmail.com

[ quoted text not captured ] The Ghoul Retainer does not have text enabling it to act during First Strike Resolution, so its effect happens during (Normal) Strike Resolution. -- - Gregory Stuart Pettigrew