[Q] Clan status and votes...

'allo, So I am wondering about something: If i play a Writ of Acceptance (AH equipment, "The vampire with this equipment is considered a camarilla vampire", the have that minion become, say, a prince, and then the writ gets destroyed, he loses the title, right? and if he later re-equips with another writ, he still has lost the title, yes? Also, is there another way, other then Clan Impersonation, to make a Independent/Camarilla vamp Sabbat? thanx in advance, J -- Posted via Mailgate.ORG Server - http://www.Mailgate.ORG

J Dyes wrote: > So I am wondering about something: If i play a Writ of Acceptance (AH > equipment, "The vampire with this equipment is considered a camarilla > vampire", the have that minion become, say, a prince, and then the writ > gets destroyed, he loses the title, right? and if he later re-equips > with another writ, he still has lost the title, yes? No. He loses the benefit of the title for the duration that he is not Camarilla. See section 10 for more. > Also, is there another way, other then Clan Impersonation, to make a > Independent/Camarilla vamp Sabbat? Derange. Feral Spirit. -- LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc. Links to revised rulebook, rulings, errata, and tournament rules: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/

In article <85fc2d16f969af5c287...@mygate.mailgate.org>, J Dyes <jcd...@earthlink.net> wrote: >'allo, > So I am wondering about something: If i play a Writ of Acceptance (AH >equipment, "The vampire with this equipment is considered a camarilla >vampire", the have that minion become, say, a prince, and then the writ >gets destroyed, he loses the title, right? and if he later re-equips >with another writ, he still has lost the title, yes? Nope. He still has the title, he just can't use it, and immediately yields it if another vampire contests it. If he gains another Writ, he can continue being Prince of East Bumfuck as before. Similar case with Deranged Camarilla title-holders -- they are not Camarilla while Deranged, so lose access to their titles, but once the Derange is moved, they regain full use of the titles. > Also, is there another way, other then Clan Impersonation, to make a >Independent/Camarilla vamp Sabbat? Nope. Alas. gomi -- Blood, guts, guns, cuts Knives, lives, wives, nuns, sluts

>> Also, is there another way, other then Clan Impersonation, to make a >>Independent/Camarilla vamp Sabbat? > > Nope. Alas. As LSJ pointed out, Derange and Feral Spirits will make a vampire Sabbat. Anyway, I believe the questions was meant to ask 'is there a way to become Sabbat without changing clans?', in which case the answer is indeed 'No'. :-| Flux