[LSJ] Flaming Candle vs Direct Intervention

What happens if a minion declares an action using an action card, and while doing so, burns a blood to activate Flaming Candle (burn a blood when you declare an action to make the action unblockable by vampires and burn the candle), and then someone else decides to use a Direct Intervention to cancel the action card? I'd think that as DI is played as "a minion card is played", it cancels the action card before the Flaming Candle is activated, but as Flaming Candle is used "as the action is announced", it might be faster than DI. Or not. What happens? Thanks, Peter D Bakija pd...@lightlink.com http://www.lightlink.com/pdb6/vtes.html

On Mon, 29 Jan 2007 21:42:09 -0500, Peter D Bakija <pd...@lightlink.com> wrote: >What happens if a minion declares an action using an action card, and >while doing so, burns a blood to activate Flaming Candle (burn a blood >when you declare an action to make the action unblockable by vampires >and burn the candle), and then someone else decides to use a Direct >Intervention to cancel the action card? The minion with the Candle keeps it. >I'd think that as DI is played as "a minion card is played", it cancels >the action card before the Flaming Candle is activated, but as Flaming >Candle is used "as the action is announced", it might be faster than DI. >Or not. Nothing is faster than DI. >What happens? The minion with the Candle keeps it. Carpe noctem. Lasombra Archivist to great deck builders. http://ArchonOfTheSwamp.tripod.com http://BlueDevilVTES.tripod.com http://ColumbusVTES.tripod.com http://Legbiter.tripod.com http://UniqueMasterOfVTES.tripod.com http://vtes-Hunter-Net.tripod.com http://VTESOrgPlay.tripod.com http://wanderers-counsel.tripod.com http://www.TheLasombra.com/decks.htm http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/rgtcjdeckarchive/

The Lasombra schrieb: >> I'd think that as DI is played as "a minion card is played", it cancels >> the action card before the Flaming Candle is activated, but as Flaming >> Candle is used "as the action is announced", it might be faster than DI. >> Or not. > > Nothing is faster than DI. Except the Sudden Reversal that cancels the D.I :) -- johannes walch

The Lasombra wrote: > On Mon, 29 Jan 2007 21:42:09 -0500, Peter D Bakija > <pd...@lightlink.com> wrote: > >> What happens if a minion declares an action using an action card, and >> while doing so, burns a blood to activate Flaming Candle (burn a blood >> when you declare an action to make the action unblockable by vampires >> and burn the candle), and then someone else decides to use a Direct >> Intervention to cancel the action card? > > The minion with the Candle keeps it. > >> I'd think that as DI is played as "a minion card is played", it cancels >> the action card before the Flaming Candle is activated, but as Flaming >> Candle is used "as the action is announced", it might be faster than DI. >> Or not. > > Nothing is faster than DI. > >> What happens? > > The minion with the Candle keeps it. Correct.

On Jan 30, 6:50 am, LSJ <vtes...@white-wolf.com> wrote: >Correct. Cool. Thanks. So what happens to the blood that gets burned? A) They never actually had time to burn the blood (as the DI beat them to the punch)? B) They get the blood back? C) They burn the blood as that is part of the candle but noth the cancelled minion card? I figure that if the action gets DI'ed, you never actually have the opportunity to declare the use of the Flaming Candle, so no blood gets burned. But I might be wrong. -Peter

Ok... so I assume the same thing applies to stuff like tapping Creepshow Casino and playing an action card which gets DI:ed; the Creepshow does not tap, right? I think I ruled this one wrong in our last storyline tournament. Oh well. //Petri

[ quoted text not captured ] Right. For playing an action card, "as the card is played" comes before "as the action is announced".