Here's the deck:
Deck name: Possession is 9/10 of the Law
Created by: Rob Grau
Crypt: (21 cards) [Min: 12, Max: 38, Avg: 7.00]
1 Anson (Toreador, 8, au CE do PR, Prince)
1 Cardano (Tremere, 9, an au ce DO FO TH, Prince)
2 Carlotta Giovanni (Giovanni, 7, do NE ob PO)
1 Constanza Vinti (Brujah, 8, CE DO PO, Prince)
1 Donal O'Connor (Brujah, 8, CE DO PO, Prince)
1 Francois Villon (Toreador, 10, AU CE ch ob po PR, Prince)
1 Gilbert Duane (Malkavian, 7, AU DO OB, Prince)
1 Greger Anderssen (Malkavian, 7, AU do OB pt, Prince)
1 Ingrid Rossler (Gangrel, 9, AN do FO PT, Prince)
1 Lazar Dobrescu (Ravnos, 3, fo)
1 Murat (Nosferatu, 7, OB PO se, Prince)
1 Queen Anne (Ventrue, 10, au DO FO PR ob, Prince)
2 Rafaele Giovanni (Giovanni, 6, ce NE ob)
1 Salbatore Bokkengro (Ravnos, 4, CH fo pt)
1 Sasha Miklos (Ravnos, 2, ch)
1 Selma the Repugnant (Nosferatu, 8, an fo OB PO, Prince)
1 Spiridonas (Tremere, 9, DO po pr TH, Prince)
1 Suhailah (Ventrue, 9, FO OB po se, Prince)
1 Tsigane (Ravnos, 3, au ch)
Library: (90 cards)
*Masters
8 Goodnight, Sweet Prince
8 Minion Tap
2 Recruitment
*Minion
1 Bonding
3 Clan Impersonation
6 Cloak the Gathering
6 Conditioning
7 Deflection
4 Faceless Night
9 Fifth Tradition: Hospitality, The
1 Forced Awakening
2 Forgotten Labyrinth
7 Govern the Unaligned
4 Lost in Crowds
1 Obedience
8 Possession
5 Second Tradition: Domain
1 Swallowed by the Night
2 Threats
5 Wake with Evening's Freshness
---
I don't know why it got 11 VPs. The crypt is ugly, ugly, ugly, and
should be halved.
Looking at the library, I'd probably swap the FA for a sixth wake, 3
conditionings for bondings, drop a clan impersonation, add an obedience,
and turn two faceless nights into elder impersonations.
ELDB side note: I didn't get any crypt stats on my newly created deck
until I closed the it and reopened it. I taking a wild guess that this
was similar to KM's problem.
Rob Grau
rfg...@eos.ncsu.edu
*Don't forget to vote for your favorite deck name.
In article <37849B72...@eos.ncsu.edu>, Robert F. Grau
<rfg...@eos.ncsu.edu> writes
> Crypt: (21 cards) [Min: 12, Max: 38, Avg: 7.00]
> 1 Anson (Toreador, 8, au CE do PR, Prince)
> 1 Cardano (Tremere, 9, an au ce DO FO TH, Prince)
> 2 Carlotta Giovanni (Giovanni, 7, do NE ob PO)
> 1 Constanza Vinti (Brujah, 8, CE DO PO, Prince)
> 1 Donal O'Connor (Brujah, 8, CE DO PO, Prince)
> 1 Francois Villon (Toreador, 10, AU CE ch ob po PR, Prince)
> 1 Gilbert Duane (Malkavian, 7, AU DO OB, Prince)
> 1 Greger Anderssen (Malkavian, 7, AU do OB pt, Prince)
> 1 Ingrid Rossler (Gangrel, 9, AN do FO PT, Prince)
> 1 Lazar Dobrescu (Ravnos, 3, fo)
> 1 Murat (Nosferatu, 7, OB PO se, Prince)
> 1 Queen Anne (Ventrue, 10, au DO FO PR ob, Prince)
> 2 Rafaele Giovanni (Giovanni, 6, ce NE ob)
> 1 Salbatore Bokkengro (Ravnos, 4, CH fo pt)
> 1 Sasha Miklos (Ravnos, 2, ch)
> 1 Selma the Repugnant (Nosferatu, 8, an fo OB PO, Prince)
> 1 Spiridonas (Tremere, 9, DO po pr TH, Prince)
> 1 Suhailah (Ventrue, 9, FO OB po se, Prince)
> 1 Tsigane (Ravnos, 3, au ch)
>
The only thing I'd really comment on here is the lack of Rudolpho
Giovanni, the 3 capacity with NEC. With a Possession deck going, the
lack of such a vampire seems somehow odd.
--
James Coupe (Prince of Mercia, England)
Vampire: Elder Kindred Network
http://madnessnetwork.hexagon.nethttp://www.obeah.demon.co.uk
Firstly, add Rudolpho. As a 3 with NEC, he should be your
Possession workhorse.
Secondly, add Guiseppe, Gravedigger. Since the big need for
stealth for your deck is for the Possessions, you'll want a single
card that can provide all the stealth at once.
If you can shuffle things around enough, include a couple of
Justicars, ICs, or Justicar votes and Might of the Camarilla.
That's just a possibility, however.
John Baker
>
> The only thing I'd really comment on here is the lack of Rudolpho
> Giovanni, the 3 capacity with NEC. With a Possession deck going, the
> lack of such a vampire seems somehow odd.
>
Mr. Rudolpho doesn't have obfuscate. Possession being what it is-- a
zero stealth action, it gets blocked frequently. Sure you can superior
Cloak it by, but why should you bother when other Giovanni come with
obfuscate
Rob Grau
rfg...@eos.ncsu.edu
John M. Baker wrote:
>
> Firstly, add Rudolpho. As a 3 with NEC, he should be your
> Possession workhorse.
>
> Secondly, add Guiseppe, Gravedigger. Since the big need for
> stealth for your deck is for the Possessions, you'll want a single
> card that can provide all the stealth at once.
Well, I'll give it some thought. Guiseppe is still a retainer.
As it stands:
Rudolpho+Guiseppe+Possession equals 2 actions, 2 cards, possession at
one stealth
Carlotta+Cloak+Possession equals 1 action, 2 cards, possession at one
stealth
With obfuscate, you can continue to add stealth, (like when your prey
plays a Second Tradition)
Without obfuscate, you best be playing at an intercept free table. That
doesn't happen so often.
I may toss in a copy of Guiseppe, (since Carlotta and Rafaele can use
him) but I think I'll pass on Rudolpho.
> If you can shuffle things around enough, include a couple of
> Justicars, ICs, or Justicar votes and Might of the Camarilla.
> That's just a possibility, however.
Yeah. It's just so nice to get back your 2 pool for GSP. We'll see what
happens when I get bored.
Thanks for the input,
Rob Grau
rfg...@eos.ncsu.edu
Robert F. Grau <rfg...@eos.ncsu.edu> wrote in article
<37849D64...@eos.ncsu.edu>...
[snip cool deck]
> ELDB side note: I didn't get any crypt stats on my newly created deck
> until I closed the it and reopened it. I taking a wild guess that this
> was similar to KM's problem.
Hey!! Mine worked after closing and reopening, too, although I hadn't
noticed it until Grau pointed it out. Whew!
KM
Robert F. Grau <rfg...@eos.ncsu.edu> wrote in article
<37849D64...@eos.ncsu.edu>...
[snip Rob's interesting deck]
I was intrigued by Rob's odd deck, and decided to build my own version:
Deck name: Good Morning, Good Evening, and Good Night
Created by: Kristyl Meth
Description: A revamp of Rob Grau's 'Possession is 9/10 of the Law'
Crypt: (14 cards) [Min: 28, Max: 38, Avg: 8.29]
1 Anson (Toreador, 8, au CE do PR,
Prince)
1 Cardano (Tremere, 9, an au ce DO FO
TH, Prince)
2 Carlotta Giovanni (Giovanni, 7, do NE ob PO)
1 Constanza Vinti (Brujah, 8, CE DO PO,
Prince)
1 Donal O'Connor (Brujah, 8, CE DO PO,
Prince)
1 Emerson Bridges (Ventrue, 8, DO FO po PR,
Prince)
1 Francois Villon (Toreador, 10, AU CE ch ob
po PR, Prince)
1 Gilbert Duane (Malkavian, 7, AU DO OB,
Prince)
1 Greger Anderssen (Malkavian, 7, AU do OB pt,
Prince)
1 Queen Anne (Ventrue, 10, au DO FO PR
ob, Prince)
1 Spiridonas (Tremere, 9, DO po pr TH,
Prince)
1 Suhailah (Ventrue, 9, FO OB po se,
Prince)
1 Wilhelm Waldburg (Ventrue, 9, au ce DO FO PR,
Prince)
Library: (90 cards)
2 Anarch Revolt
6 Banishment
4 Blood Doll
4 Clan Impersonation
6 Deflection
1 Dramatic Upheaval
4 Elder Impersonation
1 Elysium: The Arboretum
2 Faceless Night
5 Fifth Tradition: Hospitality, The
2 Forgotten Labyrinth
1 Fortune Teller Shop
4 Fourth Tradition: The Accounting
6 Goodnight, Sweet Prince
4 Kine Resources Contested
5 Lost in Crowds
1 Masquerade Enforcement
1 Morgue Hunting Ground
4 Necromancy
6 Obedience
1 Park Hunting Ground
6 Possession
2 Recruitment
6 Second Tradition: Domain
6 Spiritual Intervention
Basically, I wanted to cut down that huge crypt of Rob's. I then tried to
streamline the GN,SP/Possession combo. No Minion Taps, only Blood Dolls.
I put more Clan impersonation in, and four Necromancy masters. Notice I
only have one vamp in the crypt with natural NE (or ne for that matter).
Throw in a smattering of votes, pool gain, dominate, and obfuscate, and
there you have it. Rob's deck is still better, I'm sure, but hey....I
tried.
KM
Kristyl Meth wrote:
>
> Deck name: Good Morning, Good Evening, and Good Night
>> Crypt: (14 cards) [Min: 28, Max: 38, Avg: 8.29]
> 1 Anson (Toreador, 8, au CE do PR, Prince)
> 1 Cardano (Tremere, 9, an au ce DO FO TH, Prince)
> 2 Carlotta Giovanni (Giovanni, 7, do NE ob PO)
> 1 Constanza Vinti (Brujah, 8, CE DO PO, Prince)
> 1 Donal O'Connor (Brujah, 8, CE DO PO, Prince)
> 1 Emerson Bridges (Ventrue, 8, DO FO po PR, Prince)
> 1 Francois Villon (Toreador, 10, AU CE ch ob po PR, Prince)
> 1 Gilbert Duane (Malkavian, 7, AU DO OB, Prince)
> 1 Greger Anderssen (Malkavian, 7, AU do OB pt, Prince)
> 1 Queen Anne (Ventrue, 10, au DO FO PR ob, Prince)
> 1 Spiridonas (Tremere, 9, DO po pr TH, Prince)
> 1 Suhailah (Ventrue, 9, FO OB po se, Prince)
> 1 Wilhelm Waldburg (Ventrue, 9, au ce DO FO PR, Prince)
Personally, I'd go for 1 Carlotta and 1 Rafaele. That way you won't be
screwed by getting the 2nd Carlotta as your GSP vamp. (That sucked in
the tourney)
> Library: (90 cards)
Masters (22)
> 2 Anarch Revolt
> 4 Blood Doll
> 1 Elysium: The Arboretum
> 1 Fortune Teller Shop
> 6 Goodnight, Sweet Prince> 1 Morgue Hunting Ground
> 4 Necromancy> 1 Park Hunting Ground
> 2 Recruitment
22 masters is ick. I thought 18 masters in my previous deck was ick. I
don't see the real need for Necromancy skill cards unless you put in
some vamps with nec. You need NEC to make possession powerful, and
putting 2 skill cards on one vamp with all of those other masters in the
deck, well it just doesn't seem likely to happen. Besides, you've still
got the recruitments to go get Carlotta. You might want to drop the
Fortune Teller Shop. You'll be tapping your Ravnos, not taking actions
with them.
Votes (12)
> 6 Banishment
> 1 Dramatic Upheaval
> 4 Kine Resources Contested
> 1 Masquerade Enforcement
Masquerade Enforcement just isn't that power, even when you're playing
the perfect deck for it. By the time you normally get it in your hand,
most people are through influencing.
Stealth (19)
> 2 Faceless Night
> 4 Elder Impersonation
> 2 Forgotten Labyrinth
> 5 Lost in Crowds
> 6 Spiritual Intervention
More than enough. I suspect that the Spiritual Interventions will jam up
having only 4 nec masters and Carlotta.
Misc (37)
> 4 Clan Impersonation
> 6 Deflection> 5 Fifth Tradition: Hospitality, The> 4 Fourth Tradition: The Accounting> 6 Obedience
> 6 Possession
> 6 Second Tradition: Domain
Why not Govern the Unaligned instead of the 4th traditions? You've got
all the dominate in your crypt going to waste, and you can bleed the
mess out of somebody when you're not using it for pool management.
Also, be careful with the Clan Impersonations, they make a mess of
voting. I prefered having the smaller Ravnos and using the Clan
Impersonation as a bad work-around for not getting the guys in my crypt
draw.
> Basically, I wanted to cut down that huge crypt of Rob's.
Don't blame you. I would too. It didn't work out as horribly as I
expected, though. You just didn't see the same vamp twice. It was
initially so large because I wanted to have enough vampires to burn for
the GSP. I went a little overboard.
> I then tried to
> streamline the GN,SP/Possession combo. No Minion Taps, only Blood Dolls.
> I put more Clan impersonation in, and four Necromancy masters. Notice I
> only have one vamp in the crypt with natural NE (or ne for that matter).
> Throw in a smattering of votes, pool gain, dominate, and obfuscate, and
> there you have it. Rob's deck is still better, I'm sure, but hey....I
> tried.
Why no Minion Taps when you are using Fifth Traditions? Explain.
Thanks,
Rob Grau
rfg...@eos.ncsu.edu
Robert F. Grau <rfg...@eos.ncsu.edu> wrote in article
<37862D6E...@eos.ncsu.edu>...
> Personally, I'd go for 1 Carlotta and 1 Rafaele. That way you won't be
> screwed by getting the 2nd Carlotta as your GSP vamp. (That sucked in
> the tourney)
Good idea...
>
> > Library: (90 cards)
> Masters (22)
> > 2 Anarch Revolt
> > 4 Blood Doll
> > 1 Elysium: The Arboretum
> > 1 Fortune Teller Shop
> > 6 Goodnight, Sweet Prince
> > 1 Morgue Hunting Ground
> > 4 Necromancy
> > 1 Park Hunting Ground
> > 2 Recruitment
>
> 22 masters is ick. I thought 18 masters in my previous deck was ick. I
> don't see the real need for Necromancy skill cards unless you put in
> some vamps with nec. You need NEC to make possession powerful, and
> putting 2 skill cards on one vamp with all of those other masters in the
> deck, well it just doesn't seem likely to happen. Besides, you've still
> got the recruitments to go get Carlotta. You might want to drop the
> Fortune Teller Shop. You'll be tapping your Ravnos, not taking actions
> with them.
Good point on needing NEC...I'm worried about not getting Carlotta or
Rafael quickly enough, even with the Recruitments...
I thought I'd Clan Impersonate as many of my vamps as possible to
Ravnos...that's why I have the Fortune Teller Shop (this was assuming I'd
have vamps with NEC masters on them, but that idea may fade...), then I'd
have the extra stealth if needed to use Possession, etc. with those vamps,
while still having one to tap for GN, SP.
>
> Votes (12)
> > 6 Banishment
> > 1 Dramatic Upheaval
> > 4 Kine Resources Contested
> > 1 Masquerade Enforcement
>
> Masquerade Enforcement just isn't that power, even when you're playing
> the perfect deck for it. By the time you normally get it in your hand,
> most people are through influencing.
I agree, but it seemed like a fun card to use because the deck will not use
much influencing...more possession. I'll take it out.
>
> Stealth (19)
> > 2 Faceless Night
> > 4 Elder Impersonation
> > 2 Forgotten Labyrinth
> > 5 Lost in Crowds
> > 6 Spiritual Intervention
>
> More than enough. I suspect that the Spiritual Interventions will jam up
> having only 4 nec masters and Carlotta.
Once again, I may end up changing the crypt (and end up approaching your
total).
>
> Misc (37)
> > 4 Clan Impersonation
> > 6 Deflection
> > 5 Fifth Tradition: Hospitality, The
> > 4 Fourth Tradition: The Accounting
> > 6 Obedience
> > 6 Possession
> > 6 Second Tradition: Domain
>
> Why not Govern the Unaligned instead of the 4th traditions? You've got
> all the dominate in your crypt going to waste, and you can bleed the
> mess out of somebody when you're not using it for pool management.
I wanted the flexibility so that EVERY prince I brought out could use this
card for pool gain.
>
> Also, be careful with the Clan Impersonations, they make a mess of
> voting. I prefered having the smaller Ravnos and using the Clan
> Impersonation as a bad work-around for not getting the guys in my crypt
> draw.
Ahhh, I hadn't realized...clan impersonations cause princes to lose their
titles, eh?
Might have to add that master card that makes non-camarilla vamps into
camarilla vamps (is it a master card?)
> Why no Minion Taps when you are using Fifth Traditions? Explain.
Because of the pool cost for actions/modifiers in the deck. Blood Dolls
would be quick enough without draining my vamp down to "quick torpor"
status. Plus, all those damn master cards were taking up so many slots.
Thinking I should've left well enough alone,
KM
Kristyl Meth <dapa...@riderlaw.com> wrote in article
<01beca35$508abe60$81a5...@dapatrin.riderlaw.com>...
> Ahhh, I hadn't realized...clan impersonations cause princes to lose their
> titles, eh?
> Might have to add that master card that makes non-camarilla vamps into
> camarilla vamps (is it a master card?)
I was thinking of Ravnos Acceptance (political action). That brings a
question to mind: if I Clan Impersonate Gilbert Duane to Ravnos, does he
lose his title? What if I play Ravnos Acceptance after the impersonation?
Or before? LSJ?
KM
"Kristyl Meth" <dapa...@riderlaw.com> wrote:
> Kristyl Meth <dapa...@riderlaw.com> wrote in article
> <01beca35$508abe60$81a5...@dapatrin.riderlaw.com>...
> > Ahhh, I hadn't realized...clan impersonations cause
> > princes to lose their titles, eh?
Impersonating a non-Camarilla clan does, yes.
You can Impersonate a Camarilla clan without losing
your Prince title.
Section 10 of the rulebook handles all of this.
> > Might have to add that master card that makes
> > non-camarilla vamps into camarilla vamps (is it a
> > master card?)
>
> I was thinking of Ravnos Acceptance (political action).
> That brings a question to mind: if I Clan Impersonate
> Gilbert Duane to Ravnos, does he lose his title?
> What if I play Ravnos Acceptance after the impersonation?
> Or before? LSJ?
As long as Gilbert is non-Camarilla, he loses the benefit
of the Prince title. If he clan impersonates a non-Camarilla
clan, then he becomes non-Camarilla and loses the benefit
of the title. If (through Ravnos Acceptance, for example) he
regains his Camarilla status, then he receives the benefit of
his title.
See section 10 of the rulebook.
--
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It must be your metagame. I'm much more used to low-intercept
environments. However, keep in mind that Guiseppe is a permanent
+1 stealth, while all Obfuscate stealth is temporary. That's what
makes him useful.
Secondly, don't knock Rudolpho too much. He's a cheap vampire
(fully half the cost of Rafaele) so you should be able to throw him
away if necessary. Pull him out in the early game, if you can, and
use him before anyone gets their intercept ready, then let him
be tossed, replacing him with Carlotta or Rafaele.
John Baker
Two suggestions:
First, add Ravnos Acceptance or Writs of Acceptance to maintain
Camarilla membership when Ravnos.
Secondly, add a couple of Third Traditions. Since you have to tap
a Ravnos to use GSP, you might as well tap a weenie instead of
a Prince.
Also, consider ditching the Recruitment and Giovanni angle and
adding a bunch of Necromancy skills. That might work out easier
for you.
John Baker
John M. Baker wrote:
>
> It must be your metagame. I'm much more used to low-intercept
> environments. However, keep in mind that Guiseppe is a permanent
> +1 stealth, while all Obfuscate stealth is temporary. That's what
> makes him useful.
I guess so. We see a lot of princes (Volker, Rake) and Second
Traditions. That card is awesome if you attempt to block.
> Secondly, don't knock Rudolpho too much. He's a cheap vampire
> (fully half the cost of Rafaele) so you should be able to throw him
> away if necessary. Pull him out in the early game, if you can, and
> use him before anyone gets their intercept ready, then let him
> be tossed, replacing him with Carlotta or Rafaele.
He might be more useful with an obfuscate master than Guiseppe.
Otherwise it looks pretty even.
Best case scenario: (Assuming no one has an info highway or an Ingrid
Rossler or a ToRIII...)
Rudolpho + cheap ravnos (Sasha Miklos) = 5 influence (2 influence
phases)
Turn 3: Play GSP and hope no one has a minion to block the 0 stealth
possession action.
-or-
Turn 3: Get Guiseppe
Turn 4: Possession at +1 stealth
(Astute people might notice that you could potentially bring up Rudolpho
first, get Guiseppe, then possess on turn three. I just saw that, It
will occur about 50-60% of the time)
Rafaele + cheap ravnos = 8 influence (2 or 3 influence phases)
Turn 3: Play GSP and Possession - use stealth as necessary.
-maybe-
Turn 4: Play GSP and Possession - use stealth as necessary.
Other solutions:
Aforementioned obfuscate master. Normally I'm in favor of skill cards,
but my possession deck is already packed with masters. I might squeeze
one into the deck but the chances of getting it along with the best case
scenario are slim.
Spectral Divination - Necromancy Stealth. A good solution, but I don't
feel it's right for my deck. I've stacked the crypt with princes that
have obfuscate, so I can make use of the cards. There are zero princes
with necromancy.
---
I'm not disparaging Rudolpho, all the 3 capacity superior discipline
vamps are cool. The obfuscate just makes Rafaele so much more versitale.
(and a +1 bleed!) I think my comparison shows the speed of both are
pretty even. I'll concede that Rudolpho might get it done a little
quicker, on average, but I'll argue that Rafaele is a little more
reliable, on average. Anyway, the goal of my deck isn't to scare people
by getting a prince up on turn 3. I've got no combat defense for the
rush that would generate.
Rob Grau
rfg...@eos.ncsu.edu
In article <01beca23$569abc40$81a5...@dapatrin.riderlaw.com>,
"Kristyl Meth" <dapa...@riderlaw.com> wrote:
> Robert F. Grau <rfg...@eos.ncsu.edu> wrote in article> <37849D64...@eos.ncsu.edu>...
>
> [snip Rob's interesting deck]
>
I was looking at your deck and was very impressed. I have one question
though. If you are going to play with such big princes and political
cards why don't you add a Political Stranglehold or Ancient Influence?
> I was intrigued by Rob's odd deck, and decided to build my own
version:
>> Deck name: Good Morning, Good Evening, and Good Night> Created by: Kristyl Meth
> Description: A revamp of Rob Grau's 'Possession is 9/10 of the Law'
>[ quoted text not captured ]> Library: (90 cards)
> 2 Anarch Revolt
> 6 Banishment
> 4 Blood Doll> 4 Clan Impersonation
> 6 Deflection> 1 Dramatic Upheaval
> 4 Elder Impersonation
> 1 Elysium: The Arboretum
> 2 Faceless Night> 5 Fifth Tradition: Hospitality, The> 2 Forgotten Labyrinth
> 1 Fortune Teller Shop> 4 Fourth Tradition: The Accounting> 6 Goodnight, Sweet Prince
> 4 Kine Resources Contested
> 5 Lost in Crowds
> 1 Masquerade Enforcement> 1 Morgue Hunting Ground
> 4 Necromancy> 6 Obedience
> 1 Park Hunting Ground
> 6 Possession
> 2 Recruitment
> 6 Second Tradition: Domain
> 6 Spiritual Intervention
>> Basically, I wanted to cut down that huge crypt of Rob's. I then
tried to
> streamline the GN,SP/Possession combo. No Minion Taps, only Blood
Dolls.
> I put more Clan impersonation in, and four Necromancy masters. Notice
I
> only have one vamp in the crypt with natural NE (or ne for that
matter).
> Throw in a smattering of votes, pool gain, dominate, and obfuscate,
and
> there you have it. Rob's deck is still better, I'm sure, but hey....I
> tried.
>> KM[ quoted text not captured ]
xze...@my-deja.com wrote in article <7n7c56$tlv$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>...
> In article <01beca23$569abc40$81a5...@dapatrin.riderlaw.com>,
> "Kristyl Meth" <dapa...@riderlaw.com> wrote:
> > Robert F. Grau <rfg...@eos.ncsu.edu> wrote in article
> > <37849D64...@eos.ncsu.edu>...> I was looking at your deck and was very impressed. I have one question
> though. If you are going to play with such big princes and political
> cards why don't you add a Political Stranglehold or Ancient Influence?
Actually, this deck is being reworked (see the other string attached to my
deck with Robert Grau's comments). I like your idea, though, so I'll keep
it in mind for the rework...
KM
xze...@my-deja.com wrote:
>
> In article <01beca23$569abc40$81a5...@dapatrin.riderlaw.com>,
> "Kristyl Meth" <dapa...@riderlaw.com> wrote:
> > Robert F. Grau <rfg...@eos.ncsu.edu> wrote in article
> > <37849D64...@eos.ncsu.edu>...
> >> > [snip Rob's interesting deck]
> >> I was looking at your deck and was very impressed. I have one question
> though. If you are going to play with such big princes and political
> cards why don't you add a Political Stranglehold or Ancient Influence?
>
As far as _my_ possession deck is concerned, I threw out all the
political cards in favor of Governs and Bleed Modifiers. The titles make
a nifty vote defense, but I didn't want to get stuck with a KRC when I
needed a bonding.
I'm not a big fan of PS and AI because each can only be played once in a
game, and I can't be sure that other people won't have larger vamps than
I do. Political Stranglehold is particularly bad because I can't use it
as a damage vote on my weanie-running prey.
Rob Grau
rfg...@eos.ncsu.edu