Charnas the Imp Question

My group had conflicting views the other night on Charnas the Imp (unique retainer, 1 life. Place retainer on any minion of your choice. Charnas the Imp inflicts one damage to the minion each time the minion untaps. If the minion is burned, its controller can place Charnas on any minion. Charnas cannot be damaged by the minion he is placed on.) We read the second to last sentence as meaning the controller of the minion that was burned can place charnas on another minion (not that the controller of charnas can place him on another minion). The question is "Who is the controller of Charnas?" If Charnas is placed on my minion by Meth. "A", does "A" then control charnas? If Meth. "A" is ousted, does charnas leave play? If Charnas is contested, does Meth "A" pay the cost to avoid yielding? If Meth "A" does control Charnas, then are we reading the 2nd to last sentence wrong (does the controller of Charnas get to choose a new minion)? What happens if the minion with the Imp gets banished? Charnas will suddenly become a vary powerful card if Meth "A" gets to constantly choose who gets charnas each time a minion is burned. What does everyone else think? Has there been a ruling on this? Thanks

cw...@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Chris Gillam) writes: > My group had conflicting views the other night on Charnas the Imp >(unique retainer, 1 life. Place retainer on any minion of your choice. >Charnas the Imp inflicts one damage to the minion each time the minion >untaps. If the minion is burned, its controller can place Charnas on any >minion. Charnas cannot be damaged by the minion he is placed on.) > We read the second to last sentence as meaning the controller of the >minion that was burned can place charnas on another minion (not that the >controller of charnas can place him on another minion). > The question is "Who is the controller of Charnas?" If Charnas is Since Charnas is a minion card, he is controlled by whoever controls the minion he is on. >placed on my minion by Meth. "A", does "A" then control charnas? If Meth. No. You control him. >"A" is ousted, does charnas leave play? If Charnas is contested, does Yes, by virtue of the Golden Rule of Card Ownership (which is muddled somewhat by the Sabbat Withdrawal rules, so this answer only mostly applies to the Sabbat, whereas it applies completely to V:tES and Jyhad). >Meth "A" pay the cost to avoid yielding? If Meth "A" does control No. You do (or, rather, you yield :-) >Charnas, then are we reading the 2nd to last sentence wrong (does the >controller of Charnas get to choose a new minion)? What The controller of the burned minion get to choose the new minion to host charnas. That new minion's controller will be the controller of Charnas, then. >happens if the minion with the Imp gets banished? The Imp stays with him, as specified by Banishment's card text. -- L. Scott Johnson (sjoh...@math.sc.edu) | Kirk: How's Ensign Pilsbury? http://www.math.sc.edu/cgi-bin/sjohnson/home | McCoy: He's Bread, Jim. Graphics Specialist and V:tES Rulemonger. |

Chris Gillam wrote: > The question is "Who is the controller of Charnas?" the methuselah who controls the minion that brought charnas into play is charnas's controller. now, the problem is, the sentance on the card says "it's controller" ... and now, is "it" the minion charnas is placed on, or charnas himself? the sentance could mean either....i seem to remember reading the clarified V:TES version of charnas, not the jyhad one, and it told me who "it" was, but i've forgotten.. and i don't have a V:TES charnas..*sob*...mind you, i only have one booster of V:TES... so...i don't know who gets to choose where charnas goes...someone please help! salem.....lover of charnas.....(ooer..)

"salem christ...." <k940...@student.anu.edu.au> writes: >Chris Gillam wrote: >> The question is "Who is the controller of Charnas?" >the methuselah who controls the minion that brought charnas into play >is charnas's controller. No. Charnas is a minion card, therefore he is controlled by the controller of the minion that he is on. >now, the problem is, the sentance on the card says "it's controller" >... and now, is "it" the minion charnas is placed on, or charnas >himself? the sentance could mean either....i seem to remember reading Both. They are the same. >the clarified V:TES version of charnas, not the jyhad one, and it told >me who "it" was, but i've forgotten.. and i don't have a V:TES >charnas..*sob*...mind you, i only have one booster of V:TES... >so...i don't know who gets to choose where charnas goes...someone >please help! The controller of Charnas and of the minion wh was burned. -- L. Scott Johnson (sjoh...@math.sc.edu) | He who laughs last http://www.math.sc.edu/cgi-bin/sjohnson/home | thinks slowest [ quoted text not captured ]