rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad

Miriam Benyona versus Lord of Serenity

7 messages from 4 participants · 23 February 2010 – 24 February 2010
original thread on Google Groups

Raynor

Hi! By searching Google Newsgroups I have come upon the ruling of rescuing Mitchell the Headhunter with Sense Vitality cost one blood, so I think that Lord of Serenity costs Miriam Benyona one less is for sure. But does it cost her two less, because he rescues two vampires? Miriam Benyona Independent: Rescuing a vampire from torpor costs Miriam 1 less blood. During your untap phase, you may move 1 blood from Miriam to any ready vampire. Scarce. Lord of Serenity +1 stealth action. [for] Rescue up to two vampires from torpor. Any ready vampire may attempt to block this action. [obe] Put this card on the acting vampire. During your untap phase, this vampire gains 1 blood. Any vampire may burn this card as a (D) action. [OBE] As [obe] above, but this vampire gains 2 blood.

LSJ

On Feb 23, 3:33 pm, Raynor <thrill_kill_c...@yahoo.com> wrote: > Hi! > > By searching Google Newsgroups I have come upon the ruling of rescuing > Mitchell the Headhunter with Sense Vitality cost one blood, so I think > that Lord of Serenity costs Miriam Benyona one less is for sure. > > But does it cost her two less, because he rescues two vampires? Lord of Serenity costs zero, so the question of whether the final cost is -1 or -2 is mostly moot, as she would end up paying zero anyhow. But for the cases when the action's cost is increased by two (or more), it matters, so: Miriam reduces the cost of a rescue action by one, regardless of the number of vampires rescued. [ quoted text not captured ]

Janne Hägglund

LSJ <vte...@white-wolf.com> writes: > On Feb 23, 3:33 pm, Raynor <thrill_kill_c...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > Hi! > > > > By searching Google Newsgroups I have come upon the ruling of rescuing > > Mitchell the Headhunter with Sense Vitality cost one blood, so I think > > that Lord of Serenity costs Miriam Benyona one less is for sure. > > > > But does it cost her two less, because he rescues two vampires? > > Miriam Benyona > > Independent: Rescuing a vampire from torpor costs Miriam 1 less blood. > > During your untap phase, you may move 1 blood from Miriam to any ready > > vampire. Scarce. > > > > Lord of Serenity > > +1 stealth action. > > [for] Rescue up to two vampires from torpor. Any ready vampire may > > attempt to block this action. > > [obe] Put this card on the acting vampire. During your untap phase, > > this vampire gains 1 blood. Any vampire may burn this card as a (D) > > action. > > [OBE] As [obe] above, but this vampire gains 2 blood. > > Lord of Serenity costs zero, so the question of whether the final cost > is -1 or -2 is mostly moot, as she would end up paying zero anyhow. Errm, all the Lord of Serenity cards I have are printed with a cost of 3 blood. The text quoted above is missing the cost. > But for the cases when the action's cost is increased by two (or > more), it matters, so: > > Miriam reduces the cost of a rescue action by one, regardless of the > number of vampires rescued. So the 3-blood-costing Lord of Serenity at outferior fortitude would cost 2 blood, I presume. HG

YY

On Feb 24, 7:17 am, h...@iki.fi (Janne Hägglund) wrote: > LSJ <vtes...@white-wolf.com> writes: > > On Feb 23, 3:33 pm, Raynor <thrill_kill_c...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > Hi! > > > > By searching Google Newsgroups I have come upon the ruling of rescuing > > > Mitchell the Headhunter with Sense Vitality cost one blood, so I think > > > that Lord of Serenity costs Miriam Benyona one less is for sure. > > > > But does it cost her two less, because he rescues two vampires? > > > Miriam Benyona > > > Independent: Rescuing a vampire from torpor costs Miriam 1 less blood. > > > During your untap phase, you may move 1 blood from Miriam to any ready > > > vampire. Scarce. > > > > Lord of Serenity > > > +1 stealth action. > > > [for] Rescue up to two vampires from torpor. Any ready vampire may > > > attempt to block this action. > > > [obe] Put this card on the acting vampire. During your untap phase, > > > this vampire gains 1 blood. Any vampire may burn this card as a (D) > > > action. > > > [OBE] As [obe] above, but this vampire gains 2 blood. > > > Lord of Serenity costs zero, so the question of whether the final cost > > is -1 or -2 is mostly moot, as she would end up paying zero anyhow. > > Errm, all the Lord of Serenity cards I have are printed with a cost of > 3 blood. The text quoted above is missing the cost. > The OP posted card text as zero cost, hence the reply, I guess. YY

YY

[ quoted text not captured ] Oh, wait, you mentioned that already. Maybe I should actually read beyond the first period next time. YY

LSJ

On Feb 23, 6:17 pm, h...@iki.fi (Janne Hägglund) wrote: > LSJ <vtes...@white-wolf.com> writes: > > On Feb 23, 3:33 pm, Raynor <thrill_kill_c...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > Hi! > > > > By searching Google Newsgroups I have come upon the ruling of rescuing > > > Mitchell the Headhunter with Sense Vitality cost one blood, so I think > > > that Lord of Serenity costs Miriam Benyona one less is for sure. > > > > But does it cost her two less, because he rescues two vampires? > > > Miriam Benyona > > > Independent: Rescuing a vampire from torpor costs Miriam 1 less blood. > > > During your untap phase, you may move 1 blood from Miriam to any ready > > > vampire. Scarce. > > > > Lord of Serenity > > > +1 stealth action. > > > [for] Rescue up to two vampires from torpor. Any ready vampire may > > > attempt to block this action. > > > [obe] Put this card on the acting vampire. During your untap phase, > > > this vampire gains 1 blood. Any vampire may burn this card as a (D) > > > action. > > > [OBE] As [obe] above, but this vampire gains 2 blood. > > > Lord of Serenity costs zero, so the question of whether the final cost > > is -1 or -2 is mostly moot, as she would end up paying zero anyhow. > > Errm, all the Lord of Serenity cards I have are printed with a cost of > 3 blood. The text quoted above is missing the cost. Well, then. The answer is applicable in many more cases. :-) Thanks for the addendum. > > But for the cases when the action's cost is increased by two (or > > more), it matters, so: > > > Miriam reduces the cost of a rescue action by one, regardless of the > > number of vampires rescued. > > So the 3-blood-costing Lord of Serenity at outferior fortitude would cost > 2 blood, I presume. True fact.

Raynor

Thanks for the answer and sorry for the misquoted text o_0