rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad

Ganhuru and Ubende

4 messages from 4 participants · 25 April 2006
original thread on Google Groups

Jozxyqk

Based on a real situation that happened in play tonight: Player A controls Ganhuru. Player B is Player A's prey, controls a ready Ubende, and has 1 pool. Ganhuru bleeds successfully, thus ousting Player B. Does Ganhuru gain an additional pool from the oust? I thought "no", since Ubende isn't ready anymore after the action resolves, but it's a confusing bit of timing.

Fred Scott

"Jozxyqk" <jfeu...@eecs.tufts.edu> wrote in message news:c7udncGCyauADtDZ...@comcast.com... [ quoted text not captured ] I would think "yes", for the same reason that players are ousted simultaneously on, say, a Domain Challenge that eats the last pool of both predator and prey. The predator can't use the 6 pool gained from his prey's oust to survive the Domain Challenge because he wouldn't have it until after he's ousted. By the same token, the bleed is successful, and Ubende isn't gone until after Player A's bleed resolves. Therefore, the bleed is successful, Player A gains a pool (plus 6 more for the oust), and player B are ousted all at the same point in time. Fred

tzimisce_dragon

[ quoted text not captured ] a bleed is successful when it resolves for 1 or more, so when Ganhuru has bled successfuly, Ubende is not ready anymore, so i'd say no, he gains no extra pool. But i am not sure.... so, let's wait for LSJ...

LSJ

Fred Scott wrote: > "Jozxyqk" <jfeu...@eecs.tufts.edu> wrote in message > > Player A controls Ganhuru. > > Player B is Player A's prey, controls a ready Ubende, and has 1 pool. > > > > Ganhuru bleeds successfully, thus ousting Player B. > > Does Ganhuru gain an additional pool from the oust? > > > > I thought "no", since Ubende isn't ready anymore after the action > > resolves, but it's a confusing bit of timing. > > I would think "yes", for the same reason that players are ousted > simultaneously on, say, a Domain Challenge that eats the last pool > of both predator and prey. The predator can't use the 6 pool gained > from his prey's oust to survive the Domain Challenge because he > wouldn't have it until after he's ousted. By the same token, > the bleed is successful, and Ubende isn't gone until after Player A's > bleed resolves. Therefore, the bleed is successful, Player A gains > a pool (plus 6 more for the oust), and player B are ousted all at > the same point in time. Correct.